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The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture ID

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Description	identifier for a subject page in The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077)
Represents	The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	Islamic art (Q189594), Islamic architecture (Q212940)
Allowed values	[0-9]\d*
Example 1	Algeria (Q262) → 57
Example 2	Algiers (Q3561) → 58
Example 3	Africa (Q15) → 28
Example 4	Aghlabids (Q207600) → 32
Example 5	Hafsid dynasty (Q752662) → 365
Example 6	Zirid Dynasty (Q205718) → 1000
Example 7	Marinid dynasty (Q582861) → 594
Example 8	Almohads (Q10406562) → 70
Example 9	Almoravid dynasty (Q75613) → 71
Example 10	Ottoman dynasty (Q193383) → 712
Example 11	Berber (Q45315) → 158
Source	https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780195309911.001.0001/acref-9780195309911
Number of IDs in source	more than 1,600 entries
Expected completeness	eventually complete (Q21873974)
Implied notability	Wikidata property for an identifier that does not imply notability (Q62589320)
Formatter URL	https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/acref:oiso/9780199739356.001.0001/acref-9780199739356-e-$1
See also	Oxford Reference overview ID (P12582)
Applicable "stated in"-value	The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077)
Single-value constraint	yes
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	WikiProject Authority control (Q88300058), WikiProject Islam (Q5496999), WikiProject Arts (Q14942897), WikiProject Architecture (Q5496595)

Motivation

Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 11:59, 13 March 2017 (UTC) Jonathan Groß (talk) 17:52, 26 March 2017 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits Jneubert (talk) 13:47, 29 April 2017 (UTC) Sic19 (talk) 20:42, 12 July 2017 (UTC) Wikidelo (talk) 21:15, 8 May 2018 (UTC) ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2018 (UTC) PKM (talk) 19:40, 23 August 2018 (UTC) Ettorerizza (talk) 06:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC) Fuzheado (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC) Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:30, 7 April 2019 (UTC) Iwan.Aucamp (talk) 21:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC) Epìdosis (talk) 23:49, 22 November 2019 (UTC) Sotho Tal Ker (talk) 00:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC) Bargioni (talk) 09:48, 02 May 2020 (UTC) Carlobia (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 03:22, 23 June 2020 (UTC) Matlin (talk) 10:53, 6 July 2020 (UTC) Msuicat (talk) 21:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC) Uomovariabile (talk) 10:04, 27 October 2020 (UTC) Silva Selva (talk) 17:21, 30 November 2020 (UTC) 1-Byte (talk) 15:52, 14 December 2020 (UTC) Alessandra.Moi (talk) 17:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC) CamelCaseNick (talk) 21:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC) Songceci (talk) 18:45, 24 February 2021 (UTC)]] moz (talk) 10:48, 8 March 2021 (UTC) AhavaCohen (talk) 14:41, 11 March 2021 (UTC) Kolja21 (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2021 (UTC) RShigapov (talk) 14:34, 19 September 2021 (UTC) Jason.nlw (talk) 15:15, 30 September 2021 (UTC) MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 20:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC) Newt713 (talk) 08:42, 13 March 2022 (UTC) Pierre Tribhou (talk) 08:00, 20 March 2022 (UTC) Powerek38 (talk) 17:21, 14 April 2022 (UTC) Ahatd (talk) 08:34, 4 August 2022 (UTC) JordanTimothyJames (talk) 00:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC) --Silviafanti (talk) 17:07, 14 September 2022 (UTC) Back ache (talk) 02:03, 1 November 2022 (UTC) AfricanLibrarian (talk) M.roszkowski (talk) 10:44, 4 January 2023 (UTC) Rhagfyr (talk) 19:36, 9 January 2023 (UTC) — Haseeb (talk) 13:10, 4 August 2023 (UTC) 沈澄心✉ 13:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC) MrBenjo (talk) 15:20, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: Highly authoritative source in The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077) (URL: https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780195309911.001.0001/acref-9780195309911). --Soufiyouns (talk) 14:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

•  Support - PKM (talk) 01:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
•  Comment Note, content from this resource is also included in Grove Art Online, available through the Wikipedia Library. See [1]. the Grove Art Online IDS are different from the Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture IDs. PKM (talk) 01:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
• @ZI Jony:Not ready given that it doesn't have a description that you could copy. Wikitext does not work in descriptions. I find the length of the property name also a bit questionable. Why does it need to be so long that it doesn't fit in the space in which our property names usually fit? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 12:25, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  @Soufiyouns:, could you please clarify the comments above. Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 12:46, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  @ChristianKl: Here is the desired description: Identifier for a subject page in The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077).

There are also other examples of properties with quite long names (more than 7 words):

1. Encyclopedia of French Cultural Heritage in North America ID (English) (P9357)
2. The Encyclopedia of Oklahoma History and Culture ID (P7723)
3. The Digital Local Culture Encyclopedia of Korea ID (P7773)
4. EH.Net Encyclopedia of Economic and Business History ID (P7996)
5. Encyclopedia on Early Childhood Development ID (English) (P8015)
6. Encyclopedia of the History of Ukraine ID (P8935)
7. Das wissenschaftliche Bibellexikon im Internet ID (P9336)

Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 12:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Soufiyouns:, it is really necessary to keep long name? Regards, ZI Jony ^(Talk) 13:15, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@ZI Jony: I prefer that we keep a long name for this property, and we will add abbreviated names in the section "Also known as" after its creation, because this long name is related to the reference work The Grove Encyclopedia of Islamic Art and Architecture (Q116231077), and this will facilitate the search by keywords in Wikidata. Regards. Soufiyouns (talk) 13:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Names in the aliases are searched in a similar way as labels when a user searches by keyword. The label exists for what's displayed on pages. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 16:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)