Wikidata:Property proposal/alternate names
alternate names
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
Description | qualifier for alternate names given for a subject in a database entry |
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Data type | String |
Domain | any item |
Example | Agostino Carlini (Q2398554)Union List of Artist Names ID (P245) 500013781; subject named as (P1810) "Carlini, Agostino"; alternate names → "Agostino Carlini"; alternate names → "Carlini, Giovanni Agostino"; alternate names → "Carlini, Augustino" oral literature (Q986539)Library of Congress authority ID (P244) gf2014026342; subject named as (P1810) "Folk literature"; alternate names → "Oral literature"; alternate names → "Traditional literature" |
Planned use | I'd particularly like this for the Library of Congress Genre/Form Terms thesaurus, as linked above; but I think its use could be widespread. |
See also | subject named as (P1810) |
Motivation
This would be a qualifier, for use on identifier statements. Currently subject named as (P1810) can be used to give corresponding database entry's preferred form for the names of the subject. This property would be used similarly, to give alternate names for the subject identified in the database entry.
Recently such alternate names have increasingly been copied to be top-level aliases for the item. But unfortunately that field cannot be referenced. This qualifier could show which databases supported those aliases. It is also valuable to record what alternate terms the database treats as synonymous with the item, and lumps together with it, in cases where we do not regard the two as synonymous, eg in cases where in Wikidata that term might have its own specific subclass. Jheald (talk) 21:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
Discussion
- Proposed. Jheald (talk) 21:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support John Samuel 21:15, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support David (talk) 15:28, 30 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Good use case, but object named as (P1932) should suffice. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- @Pigsonthewing: No: object named as (P1932) is doubly wrong. First, P1932 indicates a preferred value, not an alternate value. Secondly, P1932 is about how the source words the object of the main statement, not the subject of the statement. Jheald (talk) 13:27, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:40, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
- Support however I think the property label should be singular ("alternate name") as the object of each statement would be only one alternate name at a time, right? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
- @ArthurPSmith: I'm happy either way. I used the plural because the user interface typically displays all the values of a qualifier together. But if people prefer the singular, because each triple only contains one name, then that's fine too. Jheald (talk) 17:44, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
@Jheald, Jsamwrites, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Pigsonthewing, ChristianKl, ArthurPSmith: Done Micru (talk) 21:16, 20 March 2018 (UTC)