Wikidata:Property proposal/beer style
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beer style
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Under discussion
| Description | Classification of a beer based on its style |
|---|---|
| Represents | beer style (Q1998962) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | beer (Q44) |
| Allowed values | subclasses or instances of beer style (Q1998962) |
| Example 1 | Hertog Jan Grand Prestige (Q2176488) → barley wine (Q808329) |
| Example 2 | Coors Light (Q5168060) → light beer (Q1814622) |
| Example 3 | Grolsch 0.0% (Q61043304) → low-alcohol beer (Q524679) |
| Example 4 | Brand IPA (Q19884261) → India Pale Ale (Q1543214) |
| See also | beer bitterness (P6088), beer color (P6089) |
Motivation
[edit]Beer style is a key classification for differentiating beers by their characteristics, complementing existing properties like beer color and bitterness. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mitsjol (talk • contribs) at 10:43, September 30, 2024 (UTC).
Discussion
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Comment This seems related to the proposal here: Wikidata:Requests for comment/object vs design class vs functional class for manufactured objects - it sounds like your intent is to replace overspecifity of subclass of (P279)/instance of (P31) in this domain? ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's correct, the intent is to reduce the overspecificity of subclass of (P279) and instance of (P31) by introducing a clear "beer style" property, similar to cuisine (P2012) for food or genre (P136) for media. Mitsjol (talk) 07:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Oppose on those grounds, instance of (P31) and subclass of (P279) are sufficient, we don't need special subclass items for types of object. Vicarage (talk) 17:56, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, that's correct, the intent is to reduce the overspecificity of subclass of (P279) and instance of (P31) by introducing a clear "beer style" property, similar to cuisine (P2012) for food or genre (P136) for media. Mitsjol (talk) 07:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Why do we need this property for beer specifically? Why not "alcohol style" or "beverage style"? The other beer properties in "See Also" have quantity values for a specific standard, so it would make sense for them to exist. -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 21:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- You raise good points about beverage classification. My proposal for a "beer style" property stems from the wide variety of distinct beer styles. However, I recognize the value in exploring broader categories like "alcohol style" or "beverage style." That said, using "alcohol style" for instances of vodka, for example, may not be beneficial due to its limited recognized styles. Mitsjol (talk) 09:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Grolsch 0.0% is indeed a low-alcohol beer; but that is not its style, which is Pilsner. Guinness 0.0% is a stout. The two beers are not of the same style. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:42, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
