Wikidata:Property proposal/biological phase

biological phase

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science

   Done: biological phase (P4774) (Talk and documentation)

Description	biological period or stage when this biological process or phenomenon occurs
Represents	biological phase (Q22299142)
Data type	Item
Domain	biological process (Q2996394) or physiological condition (Q7189713)
Allowed values	temporal concepts, including biological phase (Q22299142)
Example	DNA replication (Q130996) → S phase (Q2289513) systolic heart murmur (Q7663898) → systole (Q496359) development of secondary sexual characteristics (Q14905385) → puberty (Q101065)

Motivation

At the moment, there is no way of linking between biological phenomenons and biological temporal concepts. This property will also be useful to describe the concepts of embryology (Q131683). To my knowledge, no other ontology has this relation. --Okkn (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

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Discussion

Is this about naming a temporary biological process and then connecting that to what chemical processes happen in that time? Are these the same? Can you either verify or further explain the difference?

• hunger (Q3535686) → lipid metabolism (Q6556363)
• menstrual cycle (Q83864) → menstruation (Q12171)
• fatigue (Q9690) → sleep (Q35831)
• intoxication (Q205972) → ethanol metabolism (Q6011565)

Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:40, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

@Bluerasberry: Thank you for your comment. I'm assuming that the allowed value of this property is concepts relating to time or span, not temporary (transient) biological process. That is, the value should be the period of biological rhythm, biological cycle, or life cycle, most of which are generated endogenously.

I think lipid metabolism (Q6556363) and ethanol metabolism (Q6011565) can't be the values of this property because they are not temporal concepts (concepts relating to time or period), but just metabolism process. menstrual cycle (Q83864) IS the biological cycle and, conversely, the period of menstrual cycle (Q83864) (follicular phase (Q5464664) and luteal phase (Q2363481)) can be the value of this property. And fatigue (Q9690) → sleep (Q35831) is inappropriate because when someone is fatigue (Q9690), he or she should not always be sleeping. As for menstruation (Q12171) and sleep (Q35831), "menstrual period" and "sleep stage" can be the values (eg. "menstrual bleeding" → "menstrual period", sleep apnea (Q213600) → "sleep phase"). --Okkn (talk) 05:59, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

 Support I find your response satisfying. I do think this property can be confusing but any property will need development, and you have drawn some lines about what is and is not appropriate use. Blue Rasberry (talk) 16:49, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

•  Support David (talk) 07:38, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
•  Comment it is not clear to me why this should be restricted to biology, but I don't know much about this topic − Pintoch (talk) 10:30, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
  • It is not necessary to restrict this in biological fields, but I have no idea when we can use this property other than biological concepts so far. --Okkn (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
• @Okkn, ديفيد عادل وهبة خليل 2, Pintoch, Bluerasberry:  Done Created as biological phase (P4774). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 13:24, 20 January 2018 (UTC)