Wikidata:Property proposal/male form of label
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male form of label[edit]
Not done
| Description | male form of name of an element |
|---|---|
| Represents | male (Q6581097) |
| Data type | Monolingual text |
| Domain | terms |
| Example | cat (Q146) => tomcat (English (Q1860)) hundo (Q144) => virhundo (Esperanto (Q143)) politikisto (Q82955) => politikistulo (Ido (Q35224)) dramatan (Q33999) => hidramatan (Volapük (Q36986)) Haushuhn (Q780) => Hahn / Gockel (German (Q188)) ondernemer (Q131524) => zakenman (Dutch (Q7411)) |
| See also | female form of label (P2521) |
- Motivation
Wikidata currently already has a property to indicate a female form of a name of an item. This proposed property has the same function but for a male form of a name of an item. Some words have besides a female form also a male form in many languages and some languages even allow for constructing such words by means of prefixes (Esperanto: vir-, Volapük: hi-) and suffixes (Ido: -ul-). Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 19:37, 26 June 2016 (UTC)
- Discussion
Strong support due to gender mainstreaming - used in Germany in many animal labels --Plagiat (talk) 10:57, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Comment "Stallion" is not the only male form of "Horse"; others include, for example, "Gelding" and "Colt". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:20, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Then we can also add those words at the same time to the entry of the horse. Please note that "gelding" only applies to castrated male horses and "colt" only to young male horses. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 15:50, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
- Comment I'm not convinced of the usefulness of this property given some of the samples provided. female form of label (P2521) is mainly used for professions and titles. Infoboxes in some languages make use of that. Can we see infoboxes where the above samples are being used? For general lexical experiments, please use Wiktionary.
--- Jura 16:18, 29 June 2016 (UTC)- That label is not exclusively used for professions and titles and it is not defined like this. It is currently used to add the hyponym of the female word. It is added in many languages that are currently not using it in infoboxes, so it would be great if this would also be possible for male labels to make the labeling symmetric. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 01:21, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think P2521 is suitable for "animal labels". Maybe taxon common name (P1843) could work for you.
--- Jura 04:04, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- I don't think P2521 is suitable for "animal labels". Maybe taxon common name (P1843) could work for you.
- That label is not exclusively used for professions and titles and it is not defined like this. It is currently used to add the hyponym of the female word. It is added in many languages that are currently not using it in infoboxes, so it would be great if this would also be possible for male labels to make the labeling symmetric. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 01:21, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Oppose Currently stallion (Q757833) is subclass of male organism (Q44148) and male creature horse (Q726). To me that a much better way to describe the relationship between "horse" and "stallion" then through this property. Especially since the term "stallion" involves more than just the horse being male as it only refers to uncastrated horses. ChristianKl (talk) 13:37, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
- Maybe my example was not good, I thought "stallion" just meant "male horse". If there is no word for "(male) horse", then there should be no term added for English, but only for other languages which do posses such a word. The word currently already has female form of label (P2521) with female words and it would be great if we could add coordinate terms to make the labeling symmetric. I added another example for English, I hope this one is better, this word does only refer to the male species and does not specify if it is castrated. Robin van der Vliet (talk) (contribs) 01:21, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose Use aliases for that. I don't think Wikidata should copy Wiktionary. --Srittau (talk) 18:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose. This is Wiktionary's domain. --Yair rand (talk) 09:48, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
@Robin van der Vliet: 
Not done No consensus to create. Lymantria (talk) 09:27, 11 August 2016 (UTC)