Wikidata:Property proposal/models
models[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Natural science
| Description | this item models some aspect of this real thing |
|---|---|
| Represents | Model (Q234018) |
| Data type | Item |
| Domain | equation (Q11345) to start |
| Allowed values | natural science (Q7991) to start |
| Example | Navier–Stokes equations (Q201321) → fluid dynamics (Q216320) |
| Planned use | connecting equations to fields of use |
- Motivation
This is a little rough of a proposal, so I'm throwing some spaghetti at the wall here.
I need a way to connect e.g. Navier–Stokes equations (Q201321) to e.g. fluid dynamics (Q216320). I asked at Wikidata:Project chat#Domain of an equation and it seems this is a hole of some sort. I could hack around this ostensibly by saying that there are certain terms in the equation (such as energy), but that doesn't actually get me to the "domain" of the system modeled by these equations.
I could maybe use used by (P1535)? This doesn't carry the full semantics desired, however. I could go the other direction and say the field "uses" the equations, but I think that leads to a very cluttered field item.
There's a related problem at e.g. numerical methods in continuum mechanics (Q18327519) which splits the notion of a numerical method by orthogonal fields such as continuum mechanics (which I only noticed by chance). Since we have no Wiki* pages which are concerned with those specific Wikidata items, I don't think the way that's been done is ideal. That may need another property though--I'll invite discussion here for that subtopic. Izno (talk) 23:33, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Discussion
- What about main subject (P921)? ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:48, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Calling an equation a "work" seems quite a bit of a stretch. Works are written, equations are properties of the real world that are discovered. --Izno (talk) 19:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Izno: well the equation is named after Navier and Stokes for a reason. One could say poems or music are "discovered" almost as well. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:53, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
- Calling an equation a "work" seems quite a bit of a stretch. Works are written, equations are properties of the real world that are discovered. --Izno (talk) 19:42, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Not model (Q1979154) (is homonym (Q160843)? Superset?), but mathematical model (Q486902) (is not homonym). I also need a way to connect, for example, Lotka–Volterra equations (Q150052) (is mathematical model (Q486902) for predator–prey system (Q4420891)). Now we have not such proposal. Next proposal like this - "biological model". For example, genotype (Q106016) is model (Q1979154) of natural environment (Q43619) --Fractaler (talk) 13:05, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Right, this is why I ambiguously named it "model" in English (so we can avoid that problem). Most of the romance languages are likely to be okay with the homonym; my suspicion is that most of the non-Asian/African languages will be fine as well. --Izno (talk) 14:43, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- any possibility of "modeled by" instead of "Model"? MechQuester (talk) 05:48, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
Notified participants of WikiProject Physics ChristianKl (talk) 12:11, 6 February 2017 (UTC)- @Izno, Fractaler, MechQuester, ChristianKl: given the lack of expressed support and no activity in over 3 months I've marked this as
Not done. If you want to revive perhaps a new proposal that's a bit more fleshed out would help (please link to this proposal if that is the route chosen). ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:07, 14 June 2017 (UTC) - I created a new proposal for this at Wikidata:Property proposal/model for. --Push-f (talk) 06:06, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
