Wikidata:Property proposal/perpetrator
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perpetrator[edit]
Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic
| Description | CONFIRMED perpetrator of this crime or terrorist attack |
|---|---|
| Represents | crime (Q83267), terrorist attack (Q2223653) |
| Data type | Item |
| Template parameter | "perp" in en:Template:Infobox civilian attack |
| Domain | |
| Allowed values | human (Q5), terrorist organization (Q17127659) |
| Example 1 | 2020 Hanau shootings (Q85636305) → Tobias Rathjen (Q85700390) |
| Example 2 | Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting (Q906933) → Adam Lanza (Q1144884) |
| Example 3 | Columbine High School massacre (Q473845) → Eric Harris (Q18748110), Dylan Klebold (Q9213552) |
| Example 4 | murder of Chris Leggett (Q77729785) → Mohamed Abdallahi Ould Ahmednah (Q77725900) → affiliation (P1416) → al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (Q2635966) |
| Planned use | To replace the usage of participant (P710) → perpetrator (Q18028810) |
| Expected completeness | always incomplete (Q21873886) |
| See also | number of perpetrators (P3886) |
Motivation[edit]
Many Wiki's already have an infobox parameter dedicated to perpetrators of crimes and terrorist attacks and as such i think this property could come to great use. --Trade (talk) 15:32, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
Support. Thierry Caro (talk) 16:20, 20 March 2020 (UTC)- Support. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 22:51, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support I would also like to see something around victims. We had the discussion on the french community page, which didn't result into a solution. --Misc (talk) 10:47, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
- Support Storing both victim and perpetrator in participant (P710) is really strange.--Jklamo (talk) 12:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Question where would suspect (Q224952) go? participant (P710)? --- Jura 18:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
- Question there are also other values used with the qualifier object has role (P3831) on participant (P710): murderer (Q931260), direct perpetrator (Q79798062), attacker (Q31924059), backpack bomber (Q2171821), terrorist (Q14886050), acquittal (Q1454723), conspirator (Q63967171), assassin (Q55983771), serial killer (Q484188).
- Most could probably be included in perpetrator, but others not (e.g.conspirator (Q63967171)).
- What to do with these? Create more properties? --- Jura 12:57, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Trade, Tinker Bell, Misc, Jklamo, Jura1:
Done as perpetrator (P8031). Thierry Caro (talk) 03:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- As noted on Thierry's talk page, the questions are still open and template above should also be fixed. I listed this for deletion in the meantime. --- Jura 08:44, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- Object has role: murderer, direct perpetrator, backpack bomber, terrorist, jihadist, mass shooter, mass murderer, serial killer, assassin. If it's an item about a conspiracy to commit a crime then this property should be used with object has role: conspirator. The description says 'CONFIRMED perpetrator' so if the person in question have been acquitted then he should be listed under participant or significant person with object has role: acquittant (Q88883789). @Jura1: --Trade (talk) 17:15, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
- So include conspirator (Q63967171), but not suspect (Q224952)? --- Jura 17:22, 28 March 2020 (UTC)