Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2018/08/20

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Q30277524

history (Q30277524): past events and their tracks or records: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicate of history (Q309). --Mnnlaxer (talk) 01:38, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 10+ others. --DeltaBot (talk) 01:40, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
history (Q309) is ambiguous: it refers to the academic discipline and "the past" as the object studied by this discipline. history (Q30277524) represents the object studied, study of history (Q1066186) the academic discipline. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 22:30, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
I don't see a problem with history (Q309) covering both the academic discipline and the actual "past". I don't think the concept of the actual "past" needs a separate article on any wiki. And 30277524 doesn't have any entries. I'm not sure what would be the benefit of a wikidata item representing the actual "past". What would be an appropriate link to 30277524? I think the problem is the items linked to it should be linked to 309 instead. So that's a merge I guess. Thus, I think 309 and 1066186 are the same thing. So distinguishing the three German terms of history, historiography and science of history need explaining to me, see below. In general, I don't have a problem with having multiple wikidata items for different concepts, just with not with the same label. And the descriptions should be very well written to help differentiate between them. Mnnlaxer (talk) 01:56, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
The German wikipedia article is explicitly about "Geschichte" (history) in the meaning of past events as remembered by humans, not about the academic discipline (which has an own article in the German wikipedia). We could move the German sitelink at Q309 there, but there is still no easy way to keep the interwiki-links afterwards (redirects could be a solution).
As to items using "history" in the meaning of past events as remembered by humans: there is history painting (Q742333) which is characterized by having those as its motif (but not the academic discipline) and contemporary history (Q186075) being a subclass of history (but, at least regarding the description, not of the academic discipline).
As to the same label: well, that is the crux of the problem with homonyms, but I agree that the descriptions could be better and I'm generally not happy about the situation involving those items - there is definitely a lot that could be improved. I'm just doubtful if merging/deleting would be a solution. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 10:58, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
I've reached my limit of understanding wikidata, so I'll leave the difficult decisions on merging or deleting to you and others. I primarily wanted to bring up the issue. If you want to talk about better labels and/or descriptions, I'll continue to help out. Mnnlaxer (talk) 05:20, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
Thank you and I think you are right to raise this issue. I passed it to Talk:Q309. Additional thoughts about this could be helpful to improve the situation. - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 13:15, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
There is no Wikipedia having one article for history in the meaning of historical past events, one article for history in the meaning of the academic discipline and one article covering both meanings. But there are Wikipedias having an own article for history in the meaning of recorded past events (e.g. the German de:Geschichte, currently linking to history (Q309)) and an own article for history in the meaning of the academic discipline (e.g. the German de:Geschichtswissenschaft at study of history (Q1066186)) and there are Wikipedias treating both meanings in one article (e.g. the English one).
If history (Q309) should cover the meaning of recorded past events, history (Q309) and history (Q30277524) should be merged. But this is contradicted by the P31-statements at history (Q309) and quite a few descriptions. If history (Q309) should cover the meaning of the academic discipline, history (Q309) and study of history (Q1066186) should be merged. de:Geschichte could be moved to history (Q30277524) (study of history (Q1066186) refers to the academic discipline studying historical events as recorded in historical documents. The study of how people record and study history would be a subfield of study of history (Q1066186) - history of historiography (Q2699662)) - Valentina.Anitnelav (talk) 18:41, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
 Delete per Deryck. --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 23:53, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
✓ Done Redirect created by Pasleim, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 08:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Items about Benoit Soubeyran

Benoit Soubeyran (Q40676142): French librarian: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion)

Category:User:Benoit Soubeyran (Q26860142): Wikimedia category: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Disputed notability. Item was previously deleted but undeletion was requested at Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard --Pasleim (talk) 19:28, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@Pigsonthewing, Mike Peel, Nomen ad hoc: Undeleted the category for consideration as well. Mahir256 (talk) 20:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 08:48, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q19609968

Q19609968: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Item for one undefined of the Amazons (Q134154), thus failing criterion 2 because not "clearly identifiable" Marsupium (talk) 20:52, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Already identified, through the use of Sandrart.net person ID (P1422). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:30, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
  •  Comment well this case is certainly weird, this amazone is both undefined and identified (which are not contradictory, despite Marsupium comment), I'm leaning more towards  Keep but not strongly. Cdlt VIGNERON (talk) 14:10, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
@Pigsonthewing, VIGNERON: The Sandrart.net record is for a generic Amazon, citing two text passages where artworks are described that depict a generic Amazon. In that way we could in my eyes see it either as a duplicate of Amazons (Q134154)/http://ta.sandrart.net/-person-3561 (that is our item for the Amazons/a generic Amazon) and merge it into that item or regard it as a disambiguation item, mark it as n/a on Mix'n'match and delete the item. To handle external disambiguation record IDs this way was also the small consensus (of two) at Property talk:P1422#Disambiguation records?. I'd prefer not to accept the ID at all just as we don't accept GND ID (P227) "name" entries and VIAF ID (P214) "undifferentiated" entries (see Property talk:P227#Explanations). Otherwise, what shall we say the item is about, especially what instance of (P31) or subclass of (P279)? Thanks in advance for pinging me on reply! --Marsupium (talk) 13:15, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
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Q55472693

Marco Fossati (Q55472693): Research scientist in Natural Language Processing: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Disputed notability. Item was previously deleted but undeletion was requested at Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard --Pasleim (talk) 19:31, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 11:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 08:49, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q46368708

Diana Khan (Q46368708): Indian actress: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Article on enWP deleted, no references Randykitty (talk) 10:05, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 10:30, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 08:52, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56192213

Q56192213: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Spam Esteban16 (talk) 02:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 09:10, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56189246

Q56189246: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Doesn't meet the notability criteria. Esteban16 (talk) 02:44, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 02:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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Q56189173

Q56189173: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Spam Esteban16 (talk) 02:44, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 02:50, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 09:10, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q21167701

Q21167701: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Linking only a commons gallery page showing two photos and a short description of Gut Melaten (Aachen) (Q1556983). --Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:44, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Q49097541

Iglekärrs naturreservat (Q49097541): nature reserve in the southwest of Sweden: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Inaccurate --Ascilto (talk) 10:10, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

So, can't you fix the inaccuracies, Ascilto (talk • contribs • logs)? Why delete it, that seems overkill to me. - cycŋ - (talk • contribs • logs) 08:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
It's done but I still think that deletion had been easier. /Ascilto (talk) 08:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 Keep there is a wikipedia article and apparently inaccuracies has been fixed, @Ascilto: please ask for deletion of the article first if you want to delete this item. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 09:42, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q12010678

Q12010678: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Ill defined item. Sitelink moved to Q56025530
--- Jura 13:10, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 09:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q49097527

Skårs naturreservat (Q49097527): nature reserve: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Inaccurate --Ascilto (talk) 10:11, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Can't you fix the inaccuracies, Ascilto? - cycŋ - (talk • contribs • logs) 08:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 Keep there is a wikipedia article, @Ascilto: please ask for deletion of the article first if you want to delete this item. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 09:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q18333659

Säveån-Hedefors (Q18333659): nature reserve in Västra Götaland, Sweden: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Inaccurate --Ascilto (talk) 10:12, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Can't you fix the inaccuracies, Ascilto? - cycŋ - (talk • contribs • logs) 08:18, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 Keep there is a wikipedia article, @Ascilto: please ask for deletion of the article first if you want to delete this item. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 21:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 09:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q10661229

Sandsjöbacka naturreservat, Västra Götalands län (Q10661229): nature reserve in Västra Götaland, Sweden: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Inaccurate --Ascilto (talk) 10:12, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 10:20, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
Can't you fix the inaccuracies, Ascilto (talk • contribs • logs)? - cycŋ - (talk • contribs • logs) 08:18, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
 Keep there is a wikipedia article, @Ascilto: please ask for deletion of the article first if you want to delete this item. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 21:44, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 09:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q55987100

Q55987100: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicate Magnus Manske (talk) 12:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate of what, exactly? It could be Nell Marion Tenison (Q49979450), but that has a different birth and death year... - cycŋ - (talk • contribs • logs) 08:22, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
Indeed, @Magnus Manske:, is Cycn correct here? Mahir256 (talk) 18:32, 11 August 2018 (UTC)
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Q56194175

Q56194175: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Created in error Deryck Chan (talk) 10:00, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 11:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q38369070

Q38369070: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Error --— Ayack (talk) 10:05, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 11:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Template:Administrative category

All Wikidata categories are administrative category (to some extent). I don't think we need a seperate template for this. (Maybe Template:Empty category should be restored.)--GZWDer (talk) 08:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

@Laddo: --Pasleim (talk) 08:26, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
 Keep I'm afraid I disagree on this. Most WD categories exist to support contents from other projects like WP or Commons, providing machine-readable data on these categories just like for any typical WD item from the main namespace. On the other hand, some categories are purely WD and used to track items requiring clean-up or help organizing contents based on criteria that make no sense outside WD (such as items with constraint violations). The template clarifies this condition and may be used to prevent deletion of empty categories.
Actually it should be more widely used, IMHO. -- LaddΩ chat ;) 12:07, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 12:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q16338092

Wenjun Liu (Q16338092): physicist: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

No external identifier given, notability unsourced and not shown. Steak (talk) 14:51, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 15:01, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done --Pasleim (talk) 12:37, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27532022

Q27532022: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (not title). Steak (talk) 11:46, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27526312

Q27526312: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27526316

Q27526316: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 11:56, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27526320

Q27526320: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 11:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q2925382

Q2925382: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 13:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q52718454

Q52718454: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 13:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q29468414

Q29468414: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 13:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q29841111

Q29841111: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 13:07, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27523769

Q27523769: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 18:39, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27525729

Q27525729: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 19:52, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27526302

Q27526302: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 11:03, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Pasleim (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 12:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q50339681

kulturnoe-nasledie.ru (Q50339681): former website: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Former website of P1483, page was created march 2018, by jura_1, turned off by russian government March 2017. 50.254.21.213 14:15, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 14:20, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
the URL has been reused, *www dot kulturnoe-nasledie dot ru/ but it is not the same site, web page, or use, as described in Q_50339681.
a saved copy of the main page in the Internet Archive, *https://web.archive.org/web/20120915094451/http://kulturnoe-nasledie.ru:80/
the label conflicts with the property.

50.254.21.213 12:14, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

this may explain things, *https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nasledie-archive.ru%2F
and which makes the statements for the old URL web page, not for the current page which is not even the same site subject.

165.20.114.246 23:23, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

50.254.21.213 23:15, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

used as a References in EN wikipedia pages

50.254.21.213 12:37, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done Wikidata does not only hold information about what currently exists but also data about former entities. --Pasleim (talk) 12:43, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q16049060

Q16049060: Iranian politician: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplication --Peacenwar (talk) 18:25, 17 July 2018 (UTC) It appears that there are three pages for this individual on Wikidata (Q16049060, Q16074687, Q55594063), and 2 on Wikipedia (1 & 2). Please merge them.

 Comment Q55594063 → ← Merged into Q16074687, Q16049060 should wait until merged on fawiki. Matěj Suchánek (talk) 12:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done marked as Wikimedia duplicated page --Pasleim (talk) 12:45, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q27528423

Q27528423: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not notable (no title). Steak (talk) 17:24, 18 August 2018 (UTC)

@Steak: could you elaborate please, this person seems acceptable per Wikidata criteria (see Wikidata:Notability). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 16:32, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
@VIGNERON: The FIDE database contains a huge amount of profiles, it is not reasonable or useful to equip every player with a wikidata item. This is because FIDE profiles are not permanent, but are usually removed when a player has died. It does not make sense to create items for hundreds of thousands of amateur players which have beginner level. And basically the same applies for the linked game database. For these reasons we came in the Wikiproject chess to the conclusion that we limit ourselfes to titled players. Such items for non-titled player without other notability criterion fulfilled resulted from an erroronous bot run some time ago. Steak (talk) 17:25, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
@Steak: ok, I've heard of the FIDE problem and it's true it's problematic but there is an other identifier here 365Chess.com player ID (P3314). And could you link to the decision you're talking about? (I'm particularly curious about the « hundreds of thousands », it's a very small number for data; Wikidata only has 4,47 million human being right now but in the end, there will be probably more than a billion). Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 18:29, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
See Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2016/10#Notability_of_chess_players. The total number of chess players in the FIDE database is something around 158.000 + 97.000. Out of these, around 15.000 players have a title, which is the target group for wikidata. The wrong bot import yielded around 1300 non-titled player items, which are successively searched and deleted. Steak (talk) 18:47, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. In this case, I agree for  Delete (even if I think the criteria is a bit too high). Please mention this discussion next time, it will be clearer. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 21:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
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Q29035447

Q29035447: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Spam, ref Q26708474 w/history 4ing (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 13:30, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q11777500

meronym (Q11777500): word denoting a part of a whole: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Duplicate of Q12122752 --JRS (talk) 12:57, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Done merged --Pasleim (talk) 14:24, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56193334

Q56193334: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Out of project's scope. Fails Notability. — TBhagat (contribs | talk) 15:01, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

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Q29539608

Q29539608: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empty Kitayama (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56123757

Q56123757: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Empy item Jaqen (talk) 20:55, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56202769

Q56202769: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Spam Esteban16 (talk) 21:27, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56199027

Q56199027: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Vandalism Esteban16 (talk) 21:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56199348

Q56199348: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Spam Esteban16 (talk) 21:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Q56196819

Q56196819: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Doesn't meet the notability criteria. Esteban16 (talk) 21:31, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

✓ Deleted by Mahir256 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
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