Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2021/B/basshunter

Discussion moved from main page because of template overload. Bovlb (talk) 18:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Q83807994[edit]

Q83807994: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Not sure why this would be needed and the aliases on it seem rather spammy --- Jura 11:34, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On hold This item is linked from 2 others. --DeltaBot (talk) 11:40, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree with @Jura1 decision. Aroojakhan (talk) 12:54, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I think items for social media accounts should be deleted in general (exceptions being any notable for significant events or historical significance) since they are by definition just user-generated content. SilentSpike (talk) 12:55, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Aroojakhan, Jura1, SilentSpike Should we delete all the page in Q100976144 to? Since when social media page are notable? Fralambert (talk) 13:53, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Fralambert i just learn things here but as per my opinion this soudcloud is already attached with Q383541 . Aroojakhan (talk) 15:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Aroojakhan I have the same opinion that all of these pages are not notable. It's more that I ask if I should also delete all the bunch. Fralambert (talk) 15:43, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Fralambert: I believe so yes. Think it was a failed modelling experiment that ultimately does not meet WD:N criteria 2. However, perhaps we should hear from the item creator @Eurohunter:. SilentSpike (talk) 15:41, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

yeah sure @Fralambert i hope i will learn more from you. Aroojakhan (talk) 15:45, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I requested this as I looked into #Q83807364 above, but quite possibly more cleanup is needed. --- Jura 17:32, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment @Fralambert: Is social media use by Donald Trump (Q30099997) and the others notable? I can easly add references to described at URL (P973) for Q100976144. @SilentSpike: We are not talking about user generated content but official content made by creators via social media. How it not meet notability criteria? See also items for Instagram accounts in WD or Twitter. It is the same data as released albums, movies, contests or whatever. Eurohunter (talk) 18:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are no Wikipedia articles linked from the item listed for deletion whereas the one you mention has several. It seems you misunderstood why some of these items were created and created several similar ones in block. Maybe you want to do some cleanup and listed them for deletion. --- Jura 18:52, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Eurohunter: If you visit the enwiki article (which itself means Q30099997 is notable via WD:N criteria 1) you'll see that item is described in hundreds of serious sources. Also I would point out that content created "by creators via social media" is user generated content. A user being verified does not make them a non-user. Even if we don't consider that, it is self-published. SilentSpike (talk) 19:38, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SilentSpike: @Jura1: But there are notable references also for Basshunter in social media too so I will just add them with described at URL (P973). Eurohunter (talk) 20:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Will you do the cleanup request? --- Jura 20:34, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added it below. --- Jura 06:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Basshunter/Eurohunter cleanup[edit]

(bulk deletion request for items about Basshunter mainly created by User:Eurohunter)

Basshunter/Eurohunter cleanup --- Jura 06:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given the discussion in the previous section, here an attempt to list the items to delete (most also in the bulk template):

The following have already been mentioned directly or indirectly in the section above:

Hoever, many similar items have been created about the topic without a sitelink that is not a redirect, e.g.

Probably also:

wedding of Basshunter and Tina Makhia Khayatsadeh (Q66467266)

Template items should have more than one sitelink and not be made for subpages.

There are also items for Commons categories that shouldn't have been created:

outline of Basshunter (Q88951397) should be deleted when the enwiki article is deleted.
list of artists related to Basshunter (Q6343288) same for the item if the eswiki page is deleted.

Apparently the problem of some items was already mentionend by Jagulin on Talk:Q383541 and Trade on Talk:Q83807875.

Similar items were already deleted:

Q66467301 in 2019 (discussion at Wikidata:Requests_for_deletions/Archive/2019/11/07#Q66467301, by request of DannyS712)
Q56886786 in 2019 for "Portal:Basshunter"
Q103813800 yesterday for "Template:Basshunter series"

It's possible that some of the items mentioned earlier had sitelinks, that were later converted into redirects or deleted entirely and not created on Wikipedia only as redirects for Wikidata (sample).

I probably missed some .. more cleanup is likely needed on Special:Search/Basshunter. Please add missing items in separate (indented) sections below. --- Jura 06:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unacceptable @Fralambert: Are we serious? What is this? See same examples for other persons. Why so fast removal? Removal in about few hours? Why it needed to be deleted so fast in just a few hours? Is there some pressure? Why can't wait for comments and arguments? Notable items with references has been deleted without reason. Sitelink is not the only rule - there is point 2 and point 3. This is to be reviewed. I think @Moebeus: should be helpfull on explaining why we need such items and that they are notable. How is even "early life of Basshunter (Q102428661)" a "Violation of living people policy: content was: "early life of Basshunter"? en:Early life and career of Barack Obama. Eurohunter (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Q104187654 Is clearly a violation of Wikidata:BLP. We have no sitelink in any wikis and health is generally a private thing. Has for early life and career of Barack Obama (Q5326841) it have two sitelinks so it at least respect criterion #1 of WD:N. Fralambert (talk) 22:06, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Fralambert: ENWP has a lot of articles with health section and here is no difference. See health of Donald Trump (Q55747284) Eurohunter (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  One or the other item may have had BLP problems, but in general, I think they should be (or have been) deleted because of a lack of actual sitelinks and generally actual info not already in the topic's main item. The "topic is the same as Donald Trump/Barack Obama"-argument was already addressed above (#Q83807994). --- Jura 10:56, 14 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question @Eurohunter are there any items you agree should be deleted? --- Jura 22:54, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes. I can list right Q63345367 for sure because it's just redirect to template. Eurohunter (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Why there were items for Editnotices? I thought that these should be excluded by WD:N/EC but not yet have consensus? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 01:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Works by Basshunter[edit]

Q65088576 (delete | history | links | logs) (all on TAB)

Basshunter/Eurohunter cleanup --- Jura 06:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC) Even some items for works seem problematic:[reply]

1st Bass Challenge Sound 3 (Q65088576) (duration : 1 second)
etc. at Q64917879 --- Jura 06:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this is a mess--Trade (talk) 13:10, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Trade: What is the problem with sample? Stylised name? Eurohunter (talk) 19:48, 13 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Q51759069[edit]

Q51759069: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Brother of Basshunter, otherwise no indication of notability; deletion request part of Basshunter/Eurohunter cleanup

Jura 06:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have deleted most of the remaining items. I didn't delete the metal records because they have identifiers and sources. I did not delete the items for Commons categories because we need to defer to Commons on notability. Because of the template overload on RFD, I'm going to archive this manually. If any items require followup, please open a new discussion. Bovlb (talk) 17:50, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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