Wikidata:Requests for deletions/Archive/2024/03/23

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Q125100656

Q125100656: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Mistaken creation --MorrisStuff (talk) 03:41, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by HakanIST (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 07:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:Files with no machine-readable X

I couldn’t find any deletion template that could handle categories. Should non-speedy category deletion requests brought up somewhere else?

@Verdy_p: Wikidata has zero files, and likely won’t have any in the future either, so these categories will remain empty forever, rendering them useless. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 21:18, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

They are linked (but not by "wikilinks") by MediaWiki itself (via special pages, see Special:TrackingCategories) and its extensions installed on this wiki. Deleting them would generate red links that could be filled by random at any time (possibnly by errors in other pages). They are intended to remain empty and tracked properly (to allow fixing these incorrect uses; including the possibility that this wiki could have local files for some limited uses, not stored elsewhere). Deleting them would not bring any advantage, except exposing them to randomness; these are minimal entries and can be thought as part of the (cross-wiki) documentation. They don't take any valuable space (the deletion would not "save" anything: in fact this talk only takes more space than them, and it does not pollute anything else anywhere). And they are not described at all as a place for placing any "deletion request" (speedy or not). Verdy p (talk) 22:38, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

These can be disabled by typing just one code "-" into MediaWiki:Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-license, MediaWiki:Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-description, MediaWiki:Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-author, MediaWiki:Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-source and MediaWiki:Commonsmetadata-trackingcategory-no-patent. Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 05:54, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

@Verdy p: Deleting them would generate red links that could be filled by random at any time (possibly by errors in other pages). Yes, they will be potentially non-empty once the first file is uploaded to Wikidata. But this won’t happen, at least not without a community vote. It’s enough to create the category if and once a such vote passes. Unless and until that, they just fill the tracking category tree and may make people think they are something worth keeping an eye on.

And they are not described at all as a place for placing any "deletion request" (speedy or not). Sorry if I wasn’t clear; I was wondering whether this page (Wikidata:Requests for deletion) is the place for proposing the deletion of categories, not whether the categories I nominated for deletion are for deletion requests. Of course the latter aren’t; files with missing metadata should primarily be fixed rather than deleted.

@Liuxinyu970226: That would just worsen the situation: as long as there are no uploaded files, it doesn’t matter at all whether the categories are disabled, but if files appear for some reason, even redlinked tracking categories are better than those that don’t exist at all, hiding the problem. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 09:21, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

It's very easy to keep eyes on these "tracking categories", just because a file count (and subcategory count) will show normally "0" (like all other problem-tracking categories), except if there are problems in their listed members that must be fixed. So you don't need to visit all these manually. The information is immediately visible (and natively supported and maintained by MediaWiki). You don't need to follow any red link and recreate them with random content. The existing content just explains the summary reason why they exist, what they are tracking for, with links allowing the resolution or to find help if a discussion is needed. A red link does not explain anything, and problem tracking is just more complicate for most users that don't know exactly what to do. This concerns here only very few "tracking categories" that have ample documentation available and that should be supported the same way on all wikis having the same MediaWiki extensions.

So you just ask if these were categories for tracking deletion requests, they are not, and links to them exist internally in MediaWiki itself even if they do not appear in any MediaWiki pages (this is no longer the case here on this wiki with this discussion page at least). Those categories are the same with the same role in Wikimedia Commons (with content populated by a basic template) and various Wikipedias and are supported exactly the same way. Tracking categories that are builtin in any MediaWiki extensions that are supported on any wiki should exist on all these wikis, they are part of the standard installation of these extensions, their names and descriptions are reserved for these extensions. We don't need to place much descriptions in these categories (you'll note that all these tracking categories are described by a simple template revealing the exact resource name used by these extensions; some of them provide additional hints when there are several different ways to solve the issues related to their listed members and if needed will link to some help pages). Verdy p (talk) 16:59, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Another note: nothing permanently forbids Wikidata to host media files. Notably, this may be needed due to different licencing policies between Wikidata (which may be more permissive than Wikimedia Commons and could have its own list of exceptions). These tracking categories are then installed on Wikidata, because Wikidata already supports the File/Media namespaces, even if (for now) uploading files on this wiki may be restricted to some of users with specific permissions or for specific needs, and if the upload wizard used on Commons is still not installed in Wikidata. If any files are uploaded on this wiki (that can't be uploaded on Commons are that need to be explicitly different and overridnig those present in Commons), they'll normally need descriptions pages and these tracking categories are there to check that these description pages can be successfully parsed by machine. But these files will still be allowed (without any intent to request their deletion), even if for now their descriptions or licencing conditions cannot be processed by machine (e.g. with some missing licencing templates). Verdy p (talk) 18:31, 24 November 2023 (UTC)

Another note: nothing permanently forbids Wikidata to host media files. Except for the permanent lack of community consensus and local file uploads not being in line with Wikidata’s aim of being a data repository for Wikimedia and third-party reusers.

Notably, this may be needed due to different licencing policies between Wikidata (which may be more permissive than Wikimedia Commons and could have its own list of exceptions). The licensing policy is actually more permissive on Wikidata in terms of what the license allows (CC0 instead of defaulting to CC BY-SA), i.e. more restrictive in terms of what can be uploaded. Allowing fair use or other non-free content is simply not something I can imagine to ever happen on Wikidata.

even if (for now) uploading files on this wiki may be restricted to some of users with specific permissions or for specific needs No, it’s not restricted to some users, it’s outright disabled by setting $wgEnableUploads to false. (Observe that Special:Upload tells you that uploads are disabled, not a permission error.) And not “for now”, but (with the intention of) permanently.

If any files are uploaded on this wiki (that can't be uploaded on Commons are that need to be explicitly different and overridnig those present in Commons) First, no files will be uploaded. Second, overriding Commons images locally would be a very, very, very bad idea: most images are used in items, and if those are different on Wikidata than on any other wiki using InstantCommons, inappropriate images will appear in articles, as wikis get file names from Wikidata, not the files themselves. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@Tacsipacsi And why do we need local uploads (just at Wikidata, here, not any other wikis)? Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 06:08, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: We don’t. Why do you think that I think that we want? —Tacsipacsi (talk) 23:40, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Keep No harm in keeping them and some potential harm in deleting them.--Pere prlpz (talk) 20:56, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Done Categories deactivated. There is no potential harm in deleting these categories, they would just be empty forever. --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q125002547

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Spam/nonsense --Clump (talk) 11:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by KonstantinaG07 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

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Spam/nonsense --Clump (talk) 11:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by KonstantinaG07 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705047

Q55705047: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 14:24, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by KonstantinaG07 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705048

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 14:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by KonstantinaG07 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705049

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 14:25, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by KonstantinaG07 (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 14:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q12674628

International Sports Press Association (Q12674628): international organisation of sports journalists: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Moved to Q743253 --Spiderjiu (talk) 10:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Done Redirect created by User:Madamebiblio, you can do it yourself next time. --DeltaBot (talk) 14:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55704997

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:14, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55704998

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:17, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55704999

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:40, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705014

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:22, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705024

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:23, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55700625

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:29, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q125100421

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Self-promotion only SPA. Achim55 (talk) 15:31, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55700623

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55700620

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:34, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55700621

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:36, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55704975

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:38, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705011

Q55705011: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705013

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705043

Q55705043: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:03, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705056

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:04, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705038

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 14:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55700321

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Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 14:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q55705010

Q55705010: no description: (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs)

Non-notable Atakhanli (talk) 15:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 17:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q8590951

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Soft redirects should be removed per notability policy. merge cannot be performed because it does not match in meaning with the target Solidest (talk) 09:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

On hold This item is linked from 1 other. --DeltaBot (talk) 09:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Deleted by Fralambert (talk • contribs • logs) --DeltaBot (talk) 19:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Q8787685

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Soft redirects should be removed per notability policy. merge cannot be performed because it does not match in meaning with the target Solidest (talk) 09:26, 23 March 2024 (UTC)