Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Cliverbot

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

Flagged, to avoid cluttering watchlists and recent changes.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

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Cliverbot

Cliverbot (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Operator: MJL (talk • contribs • logs)

Task/s: Delete articles on Scots Wikipedia as determined by consensus there.

Code: mw:Manual:Pywikibot/delete.py

Function details: To be honest, I only registered Cliverbot here because GZWDer asked me to. Had I known there was an approval process required, I possibly wouldn't have done it (and left the sitelinks to some other bot process I'm sure exists here). However, I am a good-faith contributor, and I stopped my bot as soon as I saw Dr.üsenfieber's talk page message to me. All I ask is this request get expedited, so I can resume deleting articles per the global consensus to do so.
–MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 01:35, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

See also: Scots WP cleanup - recently deleted items needing labels checked - group A (Q99671171) an Scots WP cleanup - recently deleted items needing labels checked - group B (Q99671172) –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 01:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

• I don't see you editing on Wikidata. I think it's an error by @Dr.üsenfieber, GZWDer:. --- Jura 03:49, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  • I have no opinion against it.--GZWDer (talk) 04:01, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
  • Maybe it's a misunderstanding, but Cliverbot is deleting/editing on scowiki, not Wikidata. It may need bot approval on scowiki, but what appears here are actually edits on scowiki --- Jura 04:57, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
• My feeling is that this does not require a WD botflag as it is only editing on another wiki, and there's local approval for that bot task. However, if it would make local patrolling easier, then I'm fine with it being granted the flag. It will probably do a few more runs like this. Andrew Gray (talk) 08:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry if my request caused you trouble. The reason why I would like this bot to have the local botflag is, that the edits appear in Special:RecentChanges on Wikidata. The removal of site links is a common form of vandalism and the bot edits made patrolling harder -- Dr.üsenfieber (talk) 09:29, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

• @Ymblanter, Lymantria: would you kindly flag it? --- Jura 09:31, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
• Thanks @Ymblanter:. Let's see if it has any effect. Afterall edits are on scowiki. --- Jura 10:23, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

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Review

@MJL, GZWDer, Dr.üsenfieber, Andrew Gray, Ymblanter: @1997kB: To sum this up (mainly for bots from other wikis doing the same in the future):

• Two things seem to have been needed:
  • create the account on Wikidata (as mentioned by GZWDer, done on 16:36, 1 October 2020)
  • set the account to autoconfirmed (as done by 1997kB on 03:54, 2 October 2020 [1])
• For further features (e.g. bot flag on deletion edits), these would need some development first. --- Jura 09:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

  I could have also given the flooder flag. At the moment I gave the bot flag, the account was already confirmed.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:26, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

  • @Ymblanter: Can you give it a try? Maybe it has an effect. The bot flag needs to be affirmed explicitly. --- Jura 09:29, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

    At the moment, they have a bot and a conformed flag, I do not think I can make it any better.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:32, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

    • The bot flag doesn't seem to work (probably because the bot can't affirm the bot flag on Wikidata while deleting on scowiki), but maybe the flood flag has that effect even without. --- Jura 09:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

      I added the flood flag, let us see what happens now. I also noticed that the confirmed flag expired, I now made it indefinite.--Ymblanter (talk) 09:41, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

• I think when someone delete article over other wikis, system automatically creates account on wikidata so the articles can be removed from item. But yes if we found such bots running flood and confirmed should be given asap. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 13:50, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

  @1997kB: I don't believe so because I used Cliverbot to delete w:sco:Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Category:Chilean newspaper editors. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

@MJL: Delete log on scowiki says you deleted that article. Maybe you linked incorrect one? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:27, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Hold on, just thought it as deletion discussion for category. Can you link a Wikidata item for any of those articles in that category? ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:37, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Nvm, found it 1491. Now I think either we should use a bot like one commons have for file renames or software should automatically create account locally when someone delete an article. ‐‐1997kB (talk) 16:49, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, not sure what the best solution to that it is, but it is a good thing GZWDer had me register Cliverbot here. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:01, 3 October 2020 (UTC)