Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bot/Structor

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Withdrawn by operator.  Hazard SJ  04:09, 26 December 2015 (UTC)

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Structor

Structor (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Operator: Infovarius (talk • contribs • logs)

Task/s: Setting claims, labels and description. Some small (<1000) portions of edits which will be tedious to do by hand. Particular task: To provide structural information for species items. genera under consideration.

Code: Uses API functions through URLFetch function of Wolfram Mathematica which is not open-source. Mathematica code of main edit function, Mathematica code of the task.

Function details: Just an example. The bot gets a list of potential items like for genus Eutreptia. I view the list and extract working list (here I remove the genus itself). Then the bot goes and do such edits. The item for genus I choose or create by myself if necessary. --Infovarius (talk) 15:50, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Making strange, unsourced edits to Universe (Q1) like these? Its completly unclear what your strange named bot will do. A common name for your first bot would be InfovariusBot. Regards --Succu (talk) 18:52, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Q1 was first-try error. As its name assumes Structor will make a structures by different properties. I don't know if it needs a bot-flag for small tasks. I hoped that the flag helps me to do quicker edits through API, but may be it's not the case. --Infovarius (talk) 11:19, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't want to rename the bot as it has SUL with ~0.5 mln edits. --Infovarius (talk) 11:21, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Your bot added a lot of duplicate P31 and P171 claims. Why?--GZWDer (talk) 12:57, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

A lot? I know about 1 duplicate P31 which I've corrected already. --Infovarius (talk) 16:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: And, Please do not use confused edit summary [1]--GZWDer (talk) 04:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I want to do it as precisely as I can. What variant do you propose? Infovarius (talk) 05:00, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

@GZWDer:, please tell me what summary should be? --Infovarius (talk) 15:54, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: If you use wbeditentity, you can set summary as "import Pxx/Pxx/Pxx"; You can use no summary if you use wbcreateclaim.--GZWDer (talk) 09:00, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Don't forgt to add stated in (P248) as reference.--GZWDer (talk) 09:02, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Hm, there's a problem. I am deriving genus from the species latin names. What should I note as source? Infovarius (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: You can use no source if the claim is obvious.--GZWDer (talk) 12:12, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

AFAIU, only the Mathematica engine is non-free, while you can redistribute programs based on it. --Ricordisamoa 00:10, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: do you haz teh codez? :P --Ricordisamoa 23:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

@Ricordisamoa, Succu: I've updated the request with the codes. Infovarius (talk) 11:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius:: For your tests you should use our testrepo test.wikidata.org, not wikidata (see history of Hydrangea candida). --Succu (talk) 12:09, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

There is no reaction and an obvious a lack of experience. So I decided to  oppose. --Succu (talk) 21:57, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

@Succu: You should @Infovarius: to get more message.--GZWDer (talk) 10:24, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Do more test edits please!--GZWDer (talk) 10:25, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

I've learned API:wbeditentity, so I can do now such edits. Infovarius (talk) 21:26, 23 April 2014 (UTC)

@Succu: Structor is being tested at testwikidata:Special:Contributions/Structor.--GZWDer (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

@GZWDer:: I know. I see some test edits. But I don't see a reasonable summary, which you demanded. @Infovarius: You should choose a clear and limited area of operation for your first but run. It would be nice if you could define it and run some further test edits. --Succu (talk) 15:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

I think that my task will be: "To provide structural information for species items." There are so many of empty (without properties) species which I am running into. --Infovarius (talk) 12:03, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

It's not true that most taxa have no properties. Two questions:

1. There are some hundred genra with the same name. How do you identify the correct one for parent taxon (P171)?
2. Based on which assumptions you will use taxon (Q16521) / monotypic taxon (Q310890) for instance of (P31)?

--Succu (talk) 06:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

1. I am trying to skip homonymous genera at first. 2. I use taxon (Q16521) always. While for species monotypic taxon (Q310890) is always OK too, I suppose, superset is also correct. --Infovarius (talk) 21:24, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

1. To „skip homonymous genera” you have to be aware of them, so I have to repeat my question: How do you identify them?
2. You suppose? Species are never monotypic.

Dear Infovarius, mind to inform WikiProject Taxonomy about your bot plans? --Succu (talk) 21:47, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for recommendation,  Done. --Infovarius (talk) 11:46, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I added some remarks over there. --Succu (talk) 17:05, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

@Bene*, Vogone, Legoktm, Ymblanter, The Anonymouse: Any 'crat to comment?--GZWDer (talk) 04:56, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: Could you explain this change, please. Thx. --Succu (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

I think this is a page logging all actions by bot. @Bene*, Vogone, Legoktm, Ymblanter: Any 'crat to comment?--GZWDer (talk) 10:51, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

• Let us return here. What is the current situation?--Ymblanter (talk) 07:46, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

The discussions stopped here. --Succu (talk) 07:59, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

• Time is changing. Now the task about genus-species linking almost expired because Succu has done most of it. I can still perform the task of labelling species by its scientific name. I support en, de, fr, ru labels and descriptions but can gather information about as many languages as possible. But I won't do it without approving of flag as I'm afraid it'll be in vain because of vast burocracy... Infovarius (talk) 19:01, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

There are around 300.000 items left. :) --Succu (talk) 20:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Why do not the two of you agree on some well-defined task, and then I could flag the bot.--Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

@Infovarius: This has been open for over a year. What's the current status?  Hazard SJ  19:36, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

@Hazard-SJ:. The status is following. I'm tired of bureaucracy of getting bot flag here, and I've done and doing my automated works with QuickStatements (getting data from Mathematica still). One thing is lacking though - I can't do manual meaninful edit summaries as I can do with my code. But it is a problem of community now, I'm fine with it. The request can be closed. --Infovarius (talk) 11:20, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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