Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Bureaucrat/Sven Manguard 2
Sven Manguard 2[edit]
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- Withdrawn by candidate. Sven Manguard Wha? 23:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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RfP scheduled to end at 13 April 2013 21:03 (UTC)
- Sven Manguard (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
My original request, here, was withdrawn after it became clear that a signficant segment of the community did not want any 'crats at the time. Since that consensus has changed, I figured I'd re run. I have been a long time active user and active admin. While I have not been on as much in the past few weeks, this has nothing to do with my committment to the project (which I still place above Commons and Wikipedia on my list of favorite-to-work-on projects) and everything to do with real life commitments that are expected to end towards the first half of May. I have a good amount of experience in the RfA and RfBot areas, and feel that I could do the job of a 'crat if the community sees it fit to elect me. --Sven Manguard Wha? 21:03, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support very good candidate, I don't see any problems --Iste (D) 21:11, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose Closing Wikidata:Requests for permissions/Administrator/Legoktm a bit too early, inflammatory comments at Wikidata:Administrators/Confirm 2013/5#Bináris (talk • contribs • log actions).--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I do regret the Bináris affair. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:05, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Neutral I guess I'm torn because crats are normally supposed to stay silent and act as the unbaised closers, whereas I'd much rather hear Sven's opinion on controversial matters, rather than having him stay silent so he can close it. Legoktm (talk) 21:23, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that I can be both the unbiased closer in Bot requests and the strong advocate in community discussions. 'Crats can have opinions, the important thing is that those opinions don't come into play when closing RfA and RfBot discussions. If the job were to require me to not express my opinions on Project chat, there's no chance that I would apply for it. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Agreed, but I meant everything as a whole, including RfA and RfBot discussions. I'm still rather torn so I'll think it over the next few days :) Legoktm (talk) 22:21, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I think that I can be both the unbiased closer in Bot requests and the strong advocate in community discussions. 'Crats can have opinions, the important thing is that those opinions don't come into play when closing RfA and RfBot discussions. If the job were to require me to not express my opinions on Project chat, there's no chance that I would apply for it. Sven Manguard Wha? 22:09, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak oppose per Jasper's links. I don't think the temperament is optimal for the "job" of a bureaucrat. Lukas²³ talk in German Contribs 22:01, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Support Jasper's links are barely even worth commenting on. Sven closed an obviously passing RfA a few hours early. So what? WD:UCS. Sven left an unresearched comment on a confirmation request. I'm pretty sure that everyone has done that from time to time. The focus here should be on whether or not Sven can be trusted to close requests appropriately, and I have seen nothing to indicate otherwise. Ajraddatz (Talk) 22:58, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Reluctant oppose I really hate to do this, and I know that you mean well and have the best interests of the site at heart. However, I find Jasper's links relevant as follows: We don't want bureaucrats to be bending the rules, as that sets a bad precedent that could eventually lead to crats ignoring the consensus of the community (as I've seen at enwiki too many times over the last few months). Secondly, bureaucrats also need to make tough decisions, and then explain those tough decisions to other editors, some of whom may not be very nice in the way that they phrase their inquiries. The Bináris incident concerns me because I could see Sven making a controversial decision and then responding in anger when questioned about it, which would create more drama than necessary. I don't think it would be a complete disaster if Sven was made crat, but I just don't think it's the best fit, unfortunately. --Rschen7754 23:27, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oh well, it was worth a shot. In all honestly, this result wasn't entirely unexpected; I am not the model of stoicism that best fits the role of crat. I ran because I have a deep concern that not enough attention is being paid to keeping the RfBot process running smoothly, however the RfA process is perhaps more integral to the role of 'crat, and there are probably better fits than myself for that component of the job. It should go without saying that I don't take any of this personally, and that I won't be leaving Wikidata in a huff. Cheers, Sven Manguard Wha? 23:50, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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