Wikidata talk:WikiProject Libraries

Types of libraries[edit]

Notified participants of WikiProject Libraries Hi all! While revising metadata of types of libraries in a public archive (we will provide more details during the next week, there are few steps to be taken with the institutions involved for the disclosure), we've realised that there is a specific onthology of libraries as follows:

public libraries;
national libraries;
academic libraries (universities or centers);
libraries of religious institutes;
libraries of cultural institutions (museums or theatres);
private libraries.

We then checked the main page of the project and we discovered the to be done list. We would like to enlarge it and standardise it. We also have created this query, that shows most of the existing subclasses of library (Q7075) (the ones which are used at least one time as instance of (P31) or have instance of (P31)type of library (Q25397890)):

SELECT ?library ?libraryLabel
WHERE {
  ?singlelibrary wdt:P31 ?library .
  { ?library wdt:P279 wd:Q7075 . } UNION { ?library wdt:P31 wd:Q25397890 . }
    SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en,it,[AUTO_LANGUAGE]". }
}
GROUP BY ?library ?libraryLabel

Try it!

As you can see, there is a rather chaotic situation. Maybe we should agree at a more structured level before it becomes too chaotic.

We will edit the list to introduce more types in the next week; please let us know if you have any feedback or advice. Thank you very much! --Epìdosis 11:54, 17 September 2019 (UTC) with Alexmar983[reply]

@Epìdosis: indeed the current structures is not optimal, I'll be glad to see it improve and I will comment if possible. First, to visualise it more easily, you can look at this graph (I'm not using type of library (Q25397890), this item is not needed to get the types of libraries). Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 12:52, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Epìdosis:@VIGNERON:@Akexmar983: I suppose that your graph will be more usefull for a semantic organization of librarie if you not include specific libraries (ie. municipal libraries of Paris) but only general categories of libraries. --Giaccai (talk) 13:19, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Giaccai: this graph gives *all* type of libraries. municipal library of Paris (Q2901570) is a type of library, indeed a very strange and specific type but still a type. If you want only the most general types, you can ask to only look only for the 2 first levels of subclass : example. Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 13:35, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

yes we should create more levels of the onthology...--Alexmar983 (talk) 17:57, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While reorganizing some specific items, I discovered there might be some IFLA classification too. Segons la Federació Internacional d’Associacions de Bibliotecaris (IFLA), ...--Alexmar983 (talk) 22:09, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Standards for parent organisation, catalogues and LMS/ILS[edit]

If a library is part of a library service, network or consortium, is it useful as per this coffeecode article to include the library service as a parent organisation - eg. Edinburgh Central Library would be part of Edinburgh Libraries, but on the same item page it lists Owner as City of Edinburgh Council. Which is more useful? Or should both be used? There is also 'library system (Q26271642)'

Also the same article suggests using a link to the OPAC/web catalogue - would you link each branch as the Operator, or the fuller library system? Rhagfyr (talk) 18:13, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't fully understand the part of the question about OPAC. For the first one, I see Edinburgh Central Library (Q5061355)operator (P137)City of Edinburgh Council (Q28530250) (which seems fine), while I don't see any item with label "Edinburgh Libraries"; if the general question is "which property should be used to connect a single library with the library network of which it is part", in Italy we have systematically used member of (P463) (see e.g. Q27055865#P463) and I recommend it; so Edinburgh Central Library (Q5061355) could be link to the network of "Edinburgh Libraries" through P463. --Epìdosis 10:03, 6 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think more the latter, in that revenue, a system catalogue etc is run by one system across branches, even within local government. I have found District of Columbia Public Library uses a label library branch of as well as part of and utilises Online Catalogue etc - so this could be a good pattern to replicate. Rhagfyr (talk) 21:53, 10 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Types of libraries[edit]

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