Wikidata talk:WikiProject Taxonomy/Archive/2022/06

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New property proposal

Wikidata:Property proposal/феноритмотип is being proposed, I post this here because wikiprojects with more than 50 participants can't be pinged. --Tinker Bell 22:19, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Afanasovich: Most likely I did not accurately choose the term to describe the property "deciduous / evergreen". If you look more broadly, then I propose to introduce a system of key properties that are immenent to plant taxa

In general, I like the way the key traits of plants are organized on the Plantarium (Q59786454) site. This is a more correct system from the point of view of botany, and this classification allows you to determine which taxon a particular plant specimen belongs to. Unfortunately, they are not translated into English, but only into Russian. https://www.plantarium.ru/lang/en/page/find.html


Here is a part of their plant classification system:

errors are possible! not all morphology terms exist in wikidata and i don't know the terms in english, i'm not a botanist

System of key features of plant taxaCollapseExpand

What are your thoughts on implementing a similar system of key features for taxa? I myself have neither the rights to create / edit the properties of the wikidata, nor the skills.

Afanasovich (talk) 13:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

merging of Taxonomy templates

I noticed that there are in some way two galaxies of wiki regarding the Taxonomy templates : Template:Taxonomy/Animalia (Q19361053) vs Template:Taxonomy/Animalia (Q14462312). This involves several thousands of items. Should these two templates be merged ? I have a bot ready to do this. Waiting for comments. @Vikiolog: Louperivois (talk) 14:15, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Louperivois, I'm not 100 % sure (since i'm not familiar with the languages linked or their way of using taxons) but as logic from Turkish template usage, they are different things as: Template:Taxonomy/Animalia (Q19361053) serves as one of the pre-defined automated takson hierarchy step where all kingdoms included under Template:Automatic taxobox (Q6705326). Template:Taxonomy/Animalia (Q14462312) serves for half automated/manuel which is like one of the variables under Template:Taxobox (Q52496) (which have different pre-defined colorization/box style for each kingdoms separately). Template:Taxobox (Q52496) is an old template used when there are no connection between taxons or for users who dont know how to add hierarchical connection templates, so they choose kingdom and just write the taxon names and info as they see and voila there is taxon box :) In Turkish there are manuel templates for plants, arachnids, reptilias, birds etc but not for animals as an equal to that :) Also for Turkish, no need to bother connecting them since i'm clearing these old template connections by passing each of them to automated style and emptying them to delete. So users dont need to bother thinking about taxon parents, citations for hierarchy, coloring or keep typing samethings over and over etc. New automated styled templates can be connected like Template:Taxonomy/Acacia (Q13218333). But i cant decide for other languages if they can act as fully automated or will be used in future or part of automatic taxon box to be added there :/ Vikiolog (talk) 19:47, 24 June 2022 (UTC)