Wikidata talk:Wikidata Lexeme Forms/English

adverb, adjective, verb

@Lucas Werkmeister: I added some additional forms for English. For adjectives, sometimes there are the comparative and superlative forms, and sometimes not - can we make those optional? For verbs there may be an additional form for the past participle, but I think we can let people add that separately... ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:23, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@ArthurPSmith: All forms are optional in advanced mode, so I’d say that comparative and superlative forms should be added to the “adjective” template, and people can use advanced mode for adjectives that don’t have those forms. For verbs, IMHO the past participle should always be added as a separate form, even though it’s often identical to the simple past form. --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 11:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Lucas Werkmeister: - Ok, I modified the verb template to add past participle. What does it take to make these available live? ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@ArthurPSmith: I have to update the tool’s source code and then deploy the change :) unfortunately I don’t have time right now, but I’ll try to get it done later tonight. (In the meantime – still no comparative/superlative forms for adverbs?) --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 15:56, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I don't think English has special forms for adverb comparative/superlative forms - at least I can't think of an example. It's just prefixed with "more" or "most" (as you also need to do with many adjectives). ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, ok doing a Google search there are some rare cases. But (almost?) none of the '-ly' adverbs do that. I think it's better to leave that as exceptional things people can add when needed; it's much more common for adjectives. ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hm, I thought some -ier, -iest forms might exist, but the only examples I can think of right now are actually adjectives that just happen to end in -ly (“a costlier mistake”). Thanks! --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 22:25, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@ArthurPSmith: the new templates are live now, thanks again! --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 22:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

reload?

@Lucas Werkmeister: The id for the present participle grammatical feature changed due to a merger a few days ago. I've fixed the template; do you need to do anything? ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:44, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

@ArthurPSmith: yes, I’ve reloaded the tool now. Thanks for the ping! --Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 21:18, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Absolute adjectives?

Hi, in Swedish and Danish we now have absolute adjective forms, that is lexemes like handpicked (L1016861) which do not have comparative forms to my knowledge in english.@Lucas Werkmeister, @Mahir256 @ArthurPSmith: So9q (talk) 07:46, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

I added a draft absolute adjective to the page. I look forward to hearing your reaction to it. So9q (talk) 07:51, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Phrases

I added a non-idiomatic phrase template and an idiomatic phrase template too. So9q (talk) 08:12, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Putting the [placeholder] right at the beginning of the example sentence is discouraged, since people might write the actual form in initial uppercase there. (This also goes for the interjection template.) I’d also like some other users to review these templates, especially native speakers (I’m pretty sure the proper noun template has several errors as it stands). Lucas Werkmeister (talk) 20:06, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

I looked at and edited the proper noun template. I'm not sure we really want to encourage possessive/genitive forms for all proper nouns but I guess it's ok either way. Proper nouns can have plurals (referring to the members of a family by their surname collectively for example), should we add that option also? ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:11, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Interjection

Added also. To the best of my knowledge neither interjections nor phrases have grammatical features. So9q (talk) 18:38, 13 February 2023 (UTC)