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Te Papa agent ID
identifier assigned to a person or organisation by the Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa

Associated item	Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa (Q915603), Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa (Q915603)
Applicable "stated in" value	Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa Collections Online (Q99194519)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), organization (Q43229) or finished good (Q1408229)
Allowed values	\d+
Example	Jan Nigro (Q21996620) → 24911 Steele Photography Ltd (Q99439867) → 21479 L Black (Q99526082) → 11506
Source	https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/
Formatter URL	https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/agent/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P3544 (Q45315806)
Related to country	New Zealand (Q664) (See 49 others)
See also	Auckland Art Gallery artist ID (P3372), National Gallery of Victoria artist ID (P2041), National Library of New Zealand ID (P7682)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Mix'n'match (Report) Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P3544 Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 12,349 Main statement 11,527 93.3% of uses Qualifier 3 <0.1% of uses Reference 819 6.6% of uses
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Format “\d+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544#Unique value, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Type “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), organization (Q43229), finished good (Q1408229)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), organization (Q43229), finished good (Q1408229)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: Mercury (Q1150)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544#Type Q5, Q16334295, Q43229, Q1408229, SPARQL

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544#Scope, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3544#Entity types

This property is being used by: ko:틀:위키데이터 속성 추적 Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Works with creator missing link
List of works that are in collection (P195) Museum of New Zealand Te Papa Tongarewa (Q915603) and have creator (P170) set, but that creator doesn't have a Te Papa agent ID (P3544) link (Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?url ?creator { ?item wdt:P195 wd:Q915603 . ?item wdt:P170 ?creator . MINUS { ?creator wdt:P3544 [] } . MINUS { ?item wdt:P170 wd:Q4233718 } . # Filter out anonymous OPTIONAL {?item wdt:P973 ?url } . }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P3544#Works with creator missing link

Probably death
People with Te Papa agent ID (P3544) born before the year 1900, but no date of death (P570) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P3544 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P570 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth < "+1900-00-15T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P3544#Probably death

Pattern ^tepapa:collection/agent/(\d+)$ will be automatically replaced to \1. Testing: TODO list

Possible confusion over name of Property Te Papa agent ID (P3544)

I thought I should let folk know of a possible issue with the title of the property Te Papa agent ID (P3544). The Te Papa Museum identifier relates not just to artists whose works are held at the museum but also to scientists, collectors and other people who have contributed to the Museum of New Zealand such as curators and donors. See for example the identifier used in this item Jagoba Malumbres-Olarte (Q21390767) relating to a scientist. As a result I believe the property should be renamed as "Te Papa ID" to avoid confusion. --Ambrosia10 (talk) 20:33, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

•  Comment Perhaps “Te Papa person ID”? Otherwise  Support renaming. - PKM (talk) 21:31, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

I moved this conversation from the Wikidata:Project chat to hereMultichill (talk) 13:46, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Ambrosia10, PKM: I proposed this property and spend some time on getting it linked. In my experience it's always easier to expand scope than to reduce it. It started of as artists, but turns out it's a bit broader. In my opinion "Te Papa ID" is too broad. I like the "Te Papa person ID" suggestions. That isn't 100% coverage (also a couple of non-persons in there), but it's much better than the current "Te Papa artist ID". Multichill (talk) 13:50, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

@Multichill, PKM: I see and agree with your point that "Te Papa ID" is too broad. As my main concern is the confusion that may result with the "artist" part of the item description, I'm very happy with the proposed "Te Papa person ID" title. Thank you both for weighing in on this.--Ambrosia10 (talk) 17:48, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

 Done Moved all the old labels to aliases and added a new label in English and Dutch. This should trigger people in other languages to add a new label. Multichill (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Use on organisations

I see that Google (Q95) and Australian Government (Q2991162) have got them. Is calling it a "person ID" a misnomer? Note the "Party type: Organisation" claim on the Te Papa items. Ghouston (talk) 04:31, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

• Agreed, I think this should be relabelled as Te Papa Agent ID, per the URL pattern. See https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/agent/6411 for a non-person "Christchurch Art Gallery Te Puna o Waiwhetu" Ratso56 (talk) 08:01, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks, I changed the English and Dutch labels accordingly. Ghouston (talk) 08:25, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Works in collection constraint

@Hannolans:, I'm not sure that requiring has works in the collection (P6379) is a good idea. At least two of the entities with a Te Papa person ID, Jools Topp (Q55648193) and Lynda Topp (Q55648196), are not artists with works in Te Papa, but Te Papa has some related works. I suppose there are others like that. Ghouston (talk) 21:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)

Ah, no in that case it is not a good idea. I thought it were all artists in the collection. --Hannolans (talk) 22:00, 12 February 2019 (UTC)