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BNB person ID
identifier of a person in the British National Bibliography (bnb.data.bl.uk)

Applicable "stated in" value	British National Bibliography (Q919757)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	[^ ?.=]{2,80}
Example	William Shakespeare (Q692) → ShakespeareWilliam1564-1616 (RDF) Miguel de Cervantes (Q5682) → CervantesSaavedraMiguelde1547-1616 (RDF) Douglas Adams (Q42) → AdamsDouglas1952-2001 (RDF) Isaac Asimov (Q34981) → AsimovIsaac1920-1992 (RDF)
Source	https://bnb.data.bl.uk/
Formatter URL	https://bnb.data.bl.uk/doc/person/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P5361 (Q61035006)
Related to country	United Kingdom (Q145) (See 326 others)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 44,470 Main statement 43,388 97.6% of uses Qualifier 4 <0.1% of uses Reference 1,078 2.4% of uses
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Type “human (Q5)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Type Q5, SPARQL

Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Single value, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “[^ .=/]{2,100}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Format “[^ .=/]{2,100}[\-\da-z)A-Zĭéāëłōʹẹ́]\??”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Format, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Scope, SPARQL

Format “[^%]+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P5361#Format, SPARQL

Missing

SELECT ?bnb ?viaf WHERE {  
  SERVICE <http://bnb.data.bl.uk/sparql> {
    ?bnb owl:sameAs ?viaf .
    FILTER(REGEX(STR(?bnb), "http://bnb.data.bl.uk/id/person/.+") && REGEX(STR(?viaf), "http://viaf.org/viaf/.+")) 
  }
  ?item wdtn:P214 ?viaf .
  MINUS { ?item wdtn:P5361 [] }
} LIMIT 100

Try it!

work in progress, but we should be able to match a lot based on viaf. Multichill (talk) 10:30, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Currently 404s, will be retired and redirected, download available

The British Library who ran this have stated that they plan to participate in Share VDE, and will use that service to replace BNB.

BNB links currently result in a 404 page with a promise to redirect these soon to svde.org (I'm assuming this is Q111676881 if there is a difference with Q96776982).

Apparently the 404s began on 2022-03-31 and, at least for now, they are making the data available from their Downloads page. (I'm curious if a similar transition will affect properties SHARE Catalogue author ID and SHARE Catalogue work ID which both are currently down as well [now online], but that may be unrelated.) Chchowmein (talk) 22:02, 23 April 2022 (UTC); edited Chchowmein (talk) 22:10, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Linked Open BNB webpage, second paragraph now: "This service closed on 31st March 2022. British National Bibliography numbers will be redirected to the new service when it becomes available." --P64 (talk) 18:29, 2 May 2022 (UTC)

It's really rubbish, librarys are meant to be about making information more available, every page should have seemless-link the equivlent page on Share-VDE, but like others moving to share-vde, it's seems to be a "dump and run" Back ache (talk) 13:05, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

@Chchowmein, Back ache: Still offline, what shall we do?--U. M. Owen (talk) 10:42, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

If we had the time and energy, we could write something ourselves to connect the two (if you fancy clearing up someone else's mess :-) ) lets have a think about it.

Back ache (talk) 07:52, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

They published a blogpost about the transition the day before yesterday.

Previously the BNB looked like:

William Shakespeare (Q692) → ShakespeareWilliam1564-1616 (bnb.data.bl.uk)

Now the BNB looks like:

William Shakespeare (Q692) → william-shakespeare-a571681312170928 (bl.natbib-lod.org)

However, the new format is using The Share Family National Bibliographies Portal, which looks like:

William Shakespeare (Q692) → william-shakespeare-a571681312170928 (natbib-lod.org)

It should probably be noted that while the National Bibliographies Portal is powered by Share VDE Version 2 (Q111676881), the results at svde.org use different IDs (in case we were to create an SVDE2 property to replace SVDE1 (P6329)). SVDE2 looks like:

William Shakespeare (Q692) → william-shakespeare-a901654263881103 (svde.org)

I'm not sure that we should create properties for both NatBib (eg: william-shakespeare-a571681312170928) and SVDE2 (eg: william-shakespeare-a901654263881103). Maybe we can get a comment from someone involved as to why the IDs differ or which portal is meant to be more authoritative/lasting. Chchowmein (talk) 07:28, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

If BNB will be based on SVDE2, I think we will only need the property for SVDE2; having also a property for BNB, with the same values, would only duplicate the maintenance work, with no significant benefit IMHO. However, before creating a property for SVDE2 I think we have to wait that it becomes stable; https://www.svde.org/ is still "beta" as of now, so the IDs will probably continue changing until the project is stabilized. --Epìdosis 21:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

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