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religious order
order of monks or nuns to which an individual or religious house belongs

Description	The order of monks or nuns which the monastery housed (also true for persons or organizations)
Represents	monastic order (Q3355750)
Data type	Item
Template parameter	"order" in en:Template:Infobox monastery
Domain	According to this template: human (Q5), geographic location (Q2221906), organization (Q43229) According to statements in the property: human (Q5), geographical feature (Q618123), organization (Q43229), abbey (Q160742), convent (Q1128397), priory (Q2750108), school (Q3914), church building (Q16970), Catholic church building (Q1088552), group of humans (Q16334295), monastic rule (Q9067730), fictional human (Q15632617), Catholic university (Q557206) or Catholic school (Q1138671) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Example	Fontgombault Abbey (Q591) → Benedictines (Q131132) Conrad of Parzham (Q16785) → Order of Friars Minor Capuchin (Q124862)
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P611 (Q21084916)
See also	religion or worldview (P140)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Constraint violations/P611 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 39,062 Main statement 38,035 97.4% of uses Qualifier 1,022 2.6% of uses Reference 5 <0.1% of uses
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Value type “religious order (Q2061186), Catholic order (Q391009), society of apostolic life (Q732948), Catholic religious institute (Q5135744), institute of consecrated life (Q225446), school of Buddhism (Q222516), hospitaller order (Q3252795)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value religious order (Q2061186), Catholic order (Q391009), society of apostolic life (Q732948), Catholic religious institute (Q5135744), institute of consecrated life (Q225446), school of Buddhism (Q222516), hospitaller order (Q3252795) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P611#Value type Q2061186, Q391009, Q732948, Q5135744, Q225446, Q222516, Q3252795, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5), geographical feature (Q618123), organization (Q43229), abbey (Q160742), convent (Q1128397), priory (Q2750108), school (Q3914), church building (Q16970), Catholic church building (Q1088552), group of humans (Q16334295), monastic rule (Q9067730), fictional human (Q15632617), Catholic university (Q557206), Catholic school (Q1138671)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “human (Q5), geographical feature (Q618123), organization (Q43229), abbey (Q160742), convent (Q1128397), priory (Q2750108), school (Q3914), church building (Q16970), Catholic church building (Q1088552), group of humans (Q16334295), monastic rule (Q9067730), fictional human (Q15632617), Catholic university (Q557206), Catholic school (Q1138671)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P611#Type Q5, Q618123, Q43229, Q160742, Q1128397, Q2750108, Q3914, Q16970, Q1088552, Q16334295, Q9067730, Q15632617, Q557206, Q1138671, SPARQL

Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (religious order (P611)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P611#Contemporary, SPARQL

Conflicts with “given name (P735): Fra (Q37286881)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P611#Conflicts with P735, search, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P611#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P611#Scope, SPARQL

Value Hanafism (Q228986) will be automatically replaced to value Hanafism (Q228986) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Hanbalism (Q233387) will be automatically replaced to value Hanbalism (Q233387) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Malikism (Q48221) will be automatically replaced to value Malikism (Q48221) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Shafi`i (Q82245) will be automatically replaced to value Shafi`i (Q82245) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Isma'ilism (Q230386) will be automatically replaced to value Isma'ilism (Q230386) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Ja'fari jurisprudence (Q685567) will be automatically replaced to value Ja'fari jurisprudence (Q685567) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Zaidiyyah (Q144333) will be automatically replaced to value Zaidiyyah (Q144333) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Ibadi Islam (Q243551) will be automatically replaced to value Ibadi Islam (Q243551) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Ẓāhirī (Q140592) will be automatically replaced to value Ẓāhirī (Q140592) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

Value Al-Mawardi (Q335635) will be automatically replaced to value Al-Mawardi (Q335635) and moved to madhhab (P9929) property. Testing: TODO list

This property is being used by: fr:Modèle:Infobox Prélat catholique, fr:Modèle:Infobox Moine militaire hospitalier, fr:Modèle:Infobox Prélat catholique/Bac à sable, fr:Modèle:Infobox Saint ca:Plantilla:Infotaula líder religiós, ca:Plantilla:Persona de rellevància espiritual hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Սուրբ, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կրոնական կառույց eu:Txantiloi:Biografia infotaula automatikoa, eu:Txantiloi:Biografia infotaula automatikoa/en kab:Talɣa:Infobox biography es:Plantilla:Ficha de edificio, es:Plantilla:Ficha de estructura, es:Plantilla:Ficha de estructura/Pruebas, es:Plantilla:Ficha de edificio religioso hu:Sablon:Személy infobox/Püspök se:Málle:Biografia infotaula automatikoa/en mt:Mudell:Infobox biography, mt:Mudell:Infobox bijografija el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες προσώπου, el:Πρότυπο:Πληροφορίες κτιρίου ha:Template:Infobox biography cs:Šablona:Infobox - klášter, cs:Šablona:Infobox - světec ast:Plantía:Persona din:Macuëc:Bio ga:Teimpléad:WD Bosca Sonraí Duine gd:Teamplaid:Bogsa eachdraidh-bheatha hyw:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Սուրբ ss:Template:Umuntfu ts:Template:Bio incubator:Template:Wp/shi/Infobox biography, incubator:Template:Wp/igl/Bio, incubator:Template:Wp/ibb/Bio, incubator:Template:Wp/zgh/Infobox biography nl:Sjabloon:Infobox persoon Wikidata qu:Plantilla:Biografia, qu:Plantilla:Kawsay shi:Talɣa:Infobox biography dag:Tɛmplet:Bio ff:Template:Infobox biography gl:Modelo:Templo gur:Tɛmpileti:Bio zgh:ⴰⵍⴱⵓⴹ:Infobox biography dga:Tɛmpileti:Bio gpe:Template:Bio igl:Éwn malábó:Bio Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Élargir la propriété ?

Bonsoir,

tout d'abord désolé, je m'exprime en français, je n'ai pas trop le temps de traduire mais je voulais exposer mon idée avant de l'oublier. Voici : les religieux et prêtres chrétiens, dans les Églises apostoliques, sont rattachés pour les premiers à un ordre, mais aussi pour les seconds à un diocèse. Il n'y a actuellement aucune propriété permettant de modéliser cette dernière donnée. C'est pourquoi je propose d'élargir la propriété en ce sens. Cela pourrait donner "Diocèse ou ordre religieux", ou bien "rattachement canonique" (autres propositions bienvenues). Qu'en pensez-vous ? Nomen ad hoc (talk) 21:17, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

@Ayack: Nomen ad hoc (talk) 21:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC).

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Notified participants of WikiProject Religions... Nomen ad hoc (talk) 21:18, 30 November 2022 (UTC).

I would prefer either an enlargement of diocese (P708) (which is currently used in 2695 items about humans in an unclear way; most of its uses are probably meant to indicate that they were bishops of a certain diocese should thus become qualifiers of position held (P39)) or a new property. --Epìdosis 23:01, 30 November 2022 (UTC)

I agree with @Epìdosis. Using diocese (P708) seems a better solution. Ayack (talk) 07:52, 1 December 2022 (UTC)