Property talk:P865

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BMLO ID
identifier of Bayerisches Musiker-Lexikon Online

Associated item	Bayerisches Musiker-Lexikon Online (Q47191)
Applicable "stated in" value	Bayerisches Musiker-Lexikon Online (Q47191)
Data type	External identifier
Template parameter	de:Vorlage:BMLO
Domain	According to this template: person According to statements in the property: human (Q5) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	[a-z][0-9]{4} (string of 1 lowercase letter, followed by 4 digits)
Example	Lorenz Hauslaib (Q11933906) → h1795 Amy Winehouse (Q15897) → w1883
Source	https://www.bmlo.uni-muenchen.de/
Formatter URL	https://bmlo.de/$1
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P865 (Q53977382)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other external identifier Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Constraint violations/P865 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 7,255 Main statement 7,152 98.6% of uses Qualifier 2 <0.1% of uses Reference 101 1.4% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Single value, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “[a-z][0-9]{4}”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Item “sex or gender (P21)”: Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Item P21, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Item “date of birth (P569)”: Items with this property should also have “date of birth (P569)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Item P569, SPARQL

Item “given name (P735)”: Items with this property should also have “given name (P735)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Item P735, search, SPARQL

Item “occupation (P106)”: Items with this property should also have “occupation (P106)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Item P106, search, SPARQL

Item “GND ID (P227)”: Items with this property should also have “GND ID (P227)”. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Item P227, hourly updated report, search, SPARQL

Item “Deutsche Biographie (GND) ID (P7902)”: Items with this property should also have “Deutsche Biographie (GND) ID (P7902)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Item P7902, search, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Type Q5, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as reference (Q54828450): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P865#Scope, SPARQL

This property is being used by: de:Vorlage:BMLO ko:틀:위키데이터 속성 추적 Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

6 years BMLO ID on disambiguation page

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q2172812&diff=100417092&oldid=87152527 MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 16:39, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Without GND

Without GND with VIAF

• https://w.wiki/QmY with VIAF and link to VIAF to find GND, note: DtBio P7902 can also be set, same value as GND MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 01:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  @Epìdosis: could you help to add GND? I can add DtBio via batch later. The missing GND prevented DtBio-batch additions in my recent batches. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 16:32, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  @MrProperLawAndOrder: Good question, I shall discuss it now with my friend @Bargioni:; alone I certainly cannot do it. I'll inform you about updates. I have to repete it, you are doing great work! --Epìdosis 16:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  @Epìdosis:, Bargioni solution might be good. For BMLO 170 are left. If one does 1/min then in 3 hours it is over. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 17:36, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  @MrProperLawAndOrder:  Done, see https://tools.wmflabs.org/quickstatements/#/batch/34055; in the remaining cases VIAF contains no GND. --Epìdosis 17:41, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

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Copy from my talk, for future reference

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@Bargioni: said me to tell you that he acted as follows:

• saved the first two columns of https://w.wiki/QmY in a file named missing_GND.tsv
• he launched

perl -lne 'use JSON; chomp; ($q,$v)=split/\t/; $js=`curl -s $v/justlinks.json`; $j=from_json($js); print $q."\t$v\t". join ", ",@{$j->{DNB}}; sleep 1' missing_GND.tsv > gnd.qs

If you understand it better than me, it might be useful. Good evening, --Epìdosis 17:44, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@Bargioni, Epìdosis, Kolja21: - this is great news guys! Great it can be done via commandline and no need to download whole VIAF DB. I cannot write such perl stuff, but maybe one day can at least read and understand. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

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• https://w.wiki/QrS improved with link to bmlo @Epìdosis, Kolja21: I fixed all except Q7788227, maybe Kolja21 can do it. I found GNDs in other VIAF clusters and one or two times there was even a duplicate in WD, which was detected but GND unique violation. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 22:29, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

  Q7788227 = GND 132349434; same case as mentioned on Talk:Q5235014. --Kolja21 (talk) 23:14, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Without GND without VIAF

• https://w.wiki/QmZ no VIAF (all) MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 01:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  • https://w.wiki/Qmn no VIAF with dewiki

    @Kolja21: some for you :-) MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 01:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

   Done @MrProperLawAndOrder: "No matching records found." --Kolja21 (talk) 00:07, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

  • https://w.wiki/QwY no VIAF without dewiki

    @Kolja21: all done. Maybe 10 were duplicates in WD, now merged. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 19:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

GND beacon

• http://www.bmlo.de/beacon/ MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 04:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kolja21: The beacon currently has 25803 GNDs. WD has 6237 BMLO IDs. The highest number is not in DtBio https://www.deutsche-biographie.de/1209449145.html , so maybe it is quite new. BMLO also offers permalinks via GND. ... So, they actively support GND and have more GND than WD has BMLO IDs. I think it would be easier for completeness management if WD could store the BMLO GND IDs. Then it would be like Sächsische Bio and DtBio. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 14:12, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

• Maybe. BMLO (music) and Sächsische Bio (Saxony) cover special fields. DtBio is more general. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:23, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

GND type name in BMLO

http://bmlo.de/s4058 - GND 103946535 type name, it is also in the beacon. So, maybe one should wait until at least the type-Tn bugs are gone in BMLO. Also, I don't know what they do if a GND gets redirected, do they keep the old or replace. DtBio as aggregator hopefully switches to the redirect targets. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 19:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

GND type family in BMLO

http://bmlo.de/h0479 lists 123458633 as secondary GND, but this has type family Q94443119. @Kolja21: beacon lists secondary GNDs of type not matching with type of primary GND. So, their GND management/presentation is not matching the standards of Wikidata. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 21:51, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Difficult for bots, but works well. BMLO/GND 123458633 = 3 members of Hauser family (Q94443119). --Kolja21 (talk) 22:10, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

@Kolja21: difficult for humans - the presentation with putting a GND from another item on the page of a human without any statement why it is there is just weird. (Like their 9-digit ISNI) MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 01:32, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

GND type person in BMLO - two permanent on one human

http://bmlo.de/g0200 Q15858520 - http://d-nb.info/gnd/131597825 Geissler AND http://d-nb.info/gnd/136357946 Geißler. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 03:02, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Type constraint human only

It seems BMLO only has type=human. I added a constraint. I found this via sex/gender required and each that has no sex was either deleted in BMLO or was a group of people in WD and should be on a person item. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 14:16, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Indeed. Bayerisches Musiker-Lexikon Online (Q47191) is a biographical dictionary = GND, Typ p. Good idea. --Kolja21 (talk) 19:28, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

They could also store other types to describe the humans. E.g. the instruments, or the occupations. MrProperLawAndOrder (talk) 03:05, 15 May 2020 (UTC)