Wikidata:Properties for deletion/P4210

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✓ Done (thanks @Solidest:!) @MasterRus21thCentury, Visem, Eurohunter: Mahir256 (talk) 00:33, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bashkir encyclopedia (Bashkir version) ID (former scheme) (P4210)[edit]

Bashkir encyclopedia (Bashkir version) ID (former scheme) (P4210): (delete | history | links | entity usage | logs | discussion)

In 2019 Bashkin Encyclopedia opened a new websize bashenc.online, opened a new website, where versions in Russian, Bashkir and English were combined under a single code (Property:P9222). When switching to the old version of the site, there is a notification that the Bashkir Encyclopedia has moved to a new address. Therefore, I ask the Wikidata administrators to remove both properties —Timur Rossolov (talk) 17:39, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This in addition to the 1057 uses of P4211 (P4211) mentioned above and its https://mix-n-match.toolforge.org/#/catalog/271 catalogue.
Oddly the two aren't kept in synch (maybe identifiers for both properties (or all three) could be added to these.
bashenc.online ID (P9222) is hardly used (45 uses almost a year after creeation) and doesn't have a Mix'n'match catalogue.
I don't think we should delete the properties before the Mix'n'match question is resolved. I don't have much of an opinion of any of the three properties are worth keeping.
@Visem, З. ӘЙЛЕ, Kareyac, Magnus Manske, Epìdosis: @Movses, Avatar6, Russian Rocky, SCIdude, Vesihiisi: @Saint Johann: who worked on either catalogue in MxM.
@putnik, ShinePhantom, Carn, Ghuron: @Wikisaurus, Сидик из ПТУ, Serhio Magpie, Arbnos: who participated in the proposal discussion for the new property. --- Jura 13:40, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Good afternoon! Bashwiki needs help :) We would like, if one of the programmers could help, to change all the old data to new ones with one click, if this is not possible, notify us so that we do everything manually. In the previous site, the index of articles in Russian and Bashkir was different, in the new site they are the same. We will be grateful for any help: practical or theoretical :) --З. ӘЙЛЕ (talk) 05:47, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@З. ӘЙЛЕ: If you can supply the mappings between the old ids and the new ones, you might want to make a request at Wikidata:Bot requests. These can then be added to Wikidata and Mixnmatch. --- Jura 18:34, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I recently made a catalogue for a new property on Mix-n-match and exported around 2k IDs from Bashkir (from a template used for encyclopaedia links) and Russian wikipedia (from direct links in the new format). But it still needs to replace somewhere around 800 identifiers. @З. ӘЙЛЕ: I can't think of anything better than manual work on them 1 by 1. So it will probably also require the help of the Bashkir community to sort out the mix-n-match catalogue to then automatically remove the old property. Solidest (talk) 11:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What is the problem? If it's discountinued project just modify url with archived version to Wayback Archive to property or just update to new url if project was just moved. Don't remove properties just becasuse they are unavailable - use archived version instead. Eurohunter (talk) 16:05, 4 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that most of the archive links don't work, and the old articles have simply been moved to new IDs under new format - so it's better to be replaced rather than kept. Solidest (talk) 11:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Solidest, Eurohunter, Jura1, З. ӘЙЛЕ, putnik, Epidosis:, @Carn, Сидик из ПТУ, Arbnos, Wikisaurus, Visem: removed all existing values in Wikidata elements, replacing the old identifier with a new one. At the same time, some identifiers are only in the Bashkir language. MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 08:34, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not Wikidata problem that ID isn't available anymore. Once it existed should be kept as outdated ID. Eurohunter (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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