Wikidata:Requests for permissions/RfTA/2021
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- withdrawn--Ymblanter (talk) 19:52, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Vero Marino
- Vero Marino (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
I need the rights because I'm acting as project manager for the "Wikidata:WikiProject Performing arts" project and we have committed to the Wikimedia Foundation, among others, to translate the wikiproject into French. To do so, I need to be able to act as Translation Administrator. Thank you for your support. --Vero Marino (talk) 22:12, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support --Fjjulien (talk) 22:47, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
- Support Dirac (talk) 00:20, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Vero Marino: do you have any experience with the translation extension? --DannyS712 (talk) 00:22, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- she want to do a proper translation of her/their project and thought it was the way to do it (research admin access). Does she right? If not, how she/they can do it ? (personnaly, I do it by hand). Simon Villeneuve (talk) 01:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Simon Villeneuve anyone is able to translate pages, this right is just used to manage which pages are set up for translation DannyS712 (talk) 02:16, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @DannyS712 : Ok. So, where we ask the "permission" to translate the page and subpages of Wikidata:WikiProject Performing arts? Here ?
Ok, I saw the answer above. Simon Villeneuve (talk) 13:37, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @DannyS712 : Ok. So, where we ask the "permission" to translate the page and subpages of Wikidata:WikiProject Performing arts? Here ?
- @Simon Villeneuve anyone is able to translate pages, this right is just used to manage which pages are set up for translation DannyS712 (talk) 02:16, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- she want to do a proper translation of her/their project and thought it was the way to do it (research admin access). Does she right? If not, how she/they can do it ? (personnaly, I do it by hand). Simon Villeneuve (talk) 01:33, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose I do not see any need for this since Wikidata:WikiProject Performing arts is marked for translation. --Ameisenigel (talk) 08:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- Weak oppose by Ameisenigel --ZabeMath (talk) 18:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Comments
- If you just want to have Wikidata:WikiProject Performing arts marked for translation you can request it at Wikidata:Translators' noticeboard. For the translation itself no special rights are required. --Ameisenigel (talk) 07:21, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Ameisenigel:Is it normal to have no answer? Simon Villeneuve (talk) 16:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
- I have answered but no one of us is active 24/7, so it may just take some time. --Ameisenigel (talk) 08:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- It's done now. Thank you to all--Vero Marino (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Vero Marino does that mean you want to withdraw this request? DannyS712 (talk) 15:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- @DannyS712 As mentioned I don't want to become a translation administrator "at large" because my need is specific to the Performing arts project. This is the only place where I need to be able to mark content for translation and @Ameisenigel seems to have done it so I will be able to focus on the translation now as it is free to access. If you feel that I should pursue the request to further my goal of translating the project, I "ll leave it up to you but otherwise we can close this request.--Vero Marino (talk) 13:45, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Vero Marino does that mean you want to withdraw this request? DannyS712 (talk) 15:57, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- It's done now. Thank you to all--Vero Marino (talk) 15:09, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
- I have answered but no one of us is active 24/7, so it may just take some time. --Ameisenigel (talk) 08:11, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Ameisenigel:Is it normal to have no answer? Simon Villeneuve (talk) 16:25, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
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- Approved--Ymblanter (talk) 18:32, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Zabe
- Zabe (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Hey, I would like to help here to make sure that the latest versions of pages are marked for translation. I am already a translation admin in mediawiki and in meta, therefore I am familiar with the extension. I have also read Wikidata:Translation administrators. Regards --Zabe (talk) 15:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Comments
- Support Good TA work on meta, active here as well --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:39, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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- Done--Ymblanter (talk) 14:17, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Albertoleoncio
- Albertoleoncio (talk • contribs • new items • new lexemes • SUL • Block log • User rights log • User rights • xtools)
Hi! I have some experience in translations on other wikis and would like to be able to help with translations here on Wikidata. ━ ALBERTOLEONCIO Who, me? 13:29, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Comments
- Why exactly do you want to be a translation administrator? No translation found on WD. —Eihel (talk) 18:22, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Eihel: I'm working with some pages for an event with my role account, but I realized I need the flag to format the page's translation. From there, after reading the documentation, I became interested in getting the flag. ━ ALBERTOLEONCIO Who, me? 20:10, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support Trusted, member of m:Wiki Movement Brazil User Group, this group have intense activities on Wikidata. Valid use case for me. stanglavine msg 00:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Stanglavine Your remarks indicate the lack of awareness of the status: the fact that Alberto is part of a group or that the group is active, does not qualify him to be a translation administrator. When Alberto writes "help with translations" or "experience in translations", it leads to confusion: the translation does not require to be a translation administrator, it is used to mark the pages to allow the translation. Only, to mark a page for translation, it requires know-how. On WD, he does not participate in translations. On the other projects, Alberto is not TA. On Meta, he does translations, but these translations are not well translated (example: [1]. This is not an isolated case). If he soaks up the manual, he can obtain the status, because he is precisely "trusted". But if he does not have this know-how, it is a risk, even if he is "trusted", imho. If I asked to be admin on ptWP, you cannot write that I am active on frWP, it doesn't make sense because of the same principle. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Eihel: Sorry for my short first comment. I understood your point, but when I said he is "trusted" I mean that I know Albertoleoncio's experience on Wikimedia projects with some more technical and complex things that our translation extension. He is a technical user, so If he said that he understand the documentation, I believe that he will do a good job. When I told about the user group I mean that WMB is co-organizer of WikidataCon, and Albertoleoncio is part of WMB staff and I know that he is working directly on this event, so I suppose that some pages will need be created, translated, marked for translation. This is the "valid use case" that I talked about. And of course, being a sysop on other projects doesn't mean that someone can be a sysop here, but I think that experience in other projects is well accepted on Wikidata (see our rollbacker requirements, for example). No one have experience as TA until be a TA, and he have other experiences so I trust on Albertoleoncio's capability. Sorry again for my short first comment, I should have explained better. Regards, stanglavine msg 23:31, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Eihel: I think Stanglavine has already answered basically what I would answer, but I would like to add: In my own wikiphilosophy, users should only request flags when really necessary. I'm not a TA on other wikis because I didn't need to apply for this flag on other wikis, unlike the situation in which I find myself here. In my case, I need the flag to mark some pages that must be translated into other languages and, as I said earlier, I am interested in the tool and I would like to use this opportunity to learn its use and gain experience in it. ━ ALBERTOLEONCIO Who, me? 02:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Stanglavine Your remarks indicate the lack of awareness of the status: the fact that Alberto is part of a group or that the group is active, does not qualify him to be a translation administrator. When Alberto writes "help with translations" or "experience in translations", it leads to confusion: the translation does not require to be a translation administrator, it is used to mark the pages to allow the translation. Only, to mark a page for translation, it requires know-how. On WD, he does not participate in translations. On the other projects, Alberto is not TA. On Meta, he does translations, but these translations are not well translated (example: [1]. This is not an isolated case). If he soaks up the manual, he can obtain the status, because he is precisely "trusted". But if he does not have this know-how, it is a risk, even if he is "trusted", imho. If I asked to be admin on ptWP, you cannot write that I am active on frWP, it doesn't make sense because of the same principle. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- OK sem problemas ;) —Eihel (talk) 06:25, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Albertoleoncio: Have you read mw:Help:Extension:Translate/Page translation administration? --Ameisenigel (talk) 14:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Ameisenigel: Hi! Yes, I read the documentation. As far as I can understand, the translation tagging process is simple, although maintenance is a little more complex. I initially intend to work only at a few pages (as I said, pages related to an event), I believe it is a good starting point until I get experience and start working on other pages. If I encounter any difficulties, I will not hesitate to seek help from the community. ━ ALBERTOLEONCIO Who, me? 02:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- Great, Support. --Ameisenigel (talk) 02:57, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Ameisenigel: Hi! Yes, I read the documentation. As far as I can understand, the translation tagging process is simple, although maintenance is a little more complex. I initially intend to work only at a few pages (as I said, pages related to an event), I believe it is a good starting point until I get experience and start working on other pages. If I encounter any difficulties, I will not hesitate to seek help from the community. ━ ALBERTOLEONCIO Who, me? 02:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC)