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Commons Creator page
name of Commons Infobox template residing in "Creator" namespace on Wikimedia Commons

Represents	Commons Creator page (Q24731821)
Has quality	MediaWiki page title (Q83336425)
Data type	String
Domain	According to this template: Persons, groups of people According to statements in the property: human (Q5), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295), notname (Q1747829), workshop (Q656720), corporation (Q167037), person (Q215627), YouTube channel (Q17558136), artificial intelligence model (Q117349473) or generative artificial intelligence (Q117246174) When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Allowed values	According to this template: Creator-space page on Commons According to statements in the property: (?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^\[\]\|]+ When possible, data should only be stored as statements
Example	Stanley R. H. Rogers (Q7599919) → Stanley R. H. Rogers Carol M. Highsmith (Q5044454) → Carol M. Highsmith Zbigniew Herbert (Q161363) → Zbigniew Herbert
Formatter URL	https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Creator:$1
Robot and gadget jobs	Yes; note that Creator templates (such as the example above) may include a Wikidata ID.
Tracking: usage	Category:Pages using Wikidata property P1472 (Q61035452)
See also	Commons gallery (P935), Commons Institution page (P1612), creator (P170), Commons category (P373)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Mix'n'match (Report) Mix'n'match (Report) Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472 Database reports/Humans with missing claims/P1472 Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472 Map Random list
Proposal discussion	Proposal discussion
Current uses	Total 61,023 Main statement 60,962 >99.9% of uses Qualifier 7 <0.1% of uses Reference 54 <0.1% of uses
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Single value: this property generally contains a single value. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Single value, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Distinct values: this property likely contains a value that is different from all other items. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Unique value, hourly updated report, SPARQL (every item), SPARQL (by value)

Format “(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^\[\]\|]+”: value must be formatted using this pattern (PCRE syntax). (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Format, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295), notname (Q1747829), workshop (Q656720), corporation (Q167037), person (Q215627), YouTube channel (Q17558136), artificial intelligence model (Q117349473), generative artificial intelligence (Q117246174)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5), organization (Q43229), group of humans (Q16334295), notname (Q1747829), workshop (Q656720), corporation (Q167037), person (Q215627), YouTube channel (Q17558136), artificial intelligence model (Q117349473), generative artificial intelligence (Q117246174)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: anonymous (Q4233718)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Type Q5, Q43229, Q16334295, Q1747829, Q656720, Q167037, Q215627, Q17558136, Q117349473, Q117246174, SPARQL

Conflicts with “instance of (P31): Wikimedia disambiguation page (Q4167410), Wikimedia category (Q4167836), Wikimedia list article (Q13406463)”: this property must not be used with the listed properties and values. (Help)

List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Conflicts with P31, hourly updated report, SPARQL

Link to Commons namespace “Creator”: this property should contain a well-formed link to an existing page on Wikimedia Commons. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Commons link

Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Scope, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Entity types

Item “Commons category (P373)”: Items with this property should also have “Commons category (P373)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Item P373, search, SPARQL

Label required in languages: en: Entities using this property should have labels in one of the following languages: en (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P1472#Label in 'en' language, search, SPARQL

This property is being used by: commons:Template:Creator, commons:Template:Creator/old d:Template:Creator/statictest, d:Template:Creator/wrapper uk:Шаблон:Філософ q:ar:قالب:كاتب s:ar:قالب:مؤلف, s:ar:قالب:مؤلف/ملعب Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Probably death
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) born before the year 1900, but no date of death (P570) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P570 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth < "+1900-00-15T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#Probably death

20th-century artists without nationality
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) born after 1900, but no country of citizenship (P27) (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item p:P569 ?birthclaim . MINUS { ?item p:P27 [] } ?birthclaim ps:P569 ?birth . FILTER(?birth > "+1900-00-00T00:00:00Z"^^xsd:dateTime) . } ORDER BY ?birth LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#20th-century artists without nationality

No suitable occupation
People with Commons Creator page (P1472) and occupation (P106) but without a occupation that would create suitable works for Commons. The occupations are artist (Q483501), author (Q482980), botanist (Q2374149), zoologist (Q350979), cartographer (Q1734662), scientist (Q901) and subclasses of these. (Help)
Violations query: SELECT DISTINCT ?item WHERE { ?item wdt:P1472 [] . ?item wdt:P106 [] . ?item wdt:P31 wd:Q5 . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q483501} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q482980} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q2374149} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q350979} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q1734662} . MINUS {?item wdt:P106/wdt:P279* wd:Q901} . } LIMIT 1000
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P1472#No suitable occupation

Should we delete some constraints?

This property has some constraints with a LOT of violations, like requirement for presence of date of birth (P569) and place of birth (P19). For many old masters date of birth (P569), place of birth (P19) are often unknown and it is just too much work to list 4 thousand exceptions. So I would propose to just not keep track of it. occupation (P106) also has over thousand violations but that one we should be able to add. --Jarekt (talk) 19:02, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes! Good idea. I'd say: Go forward! --Marsupium (talk) 00:56, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. Wikidata:Database reports/Humans with missing claims covers this. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:06, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks --Jarekt (talk) 13:17, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Restrict P1472 to humans only?

I was thinking about restricting P1472 to humans only. Great majority of Creator templates correspond to humans but we have bout 80 templates with corporate or group type (see c:Category:Creator_templates_by_type) and they correspond to majority of exceptions. What I would propose is to not keep P1472 links for those. That would greatly simplify our constraints. We should also discourage people from creating new Creator templates for groups and institutions. --Jarekt (talk) 14:07, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

This is an old comment, but I disagree. Companies that create furniture, pottery, and other decorative objects should have Creator IDs and Creator templates, just as they have IDs in museum artist databases. - PKM (talk) 20:05, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

"occupation" as a required statement

I am planning to also remove "occupation" as a required statement with this property, as the property is used for a lot non-individual creators. Any objections? --Jarekt (talk) 13:54, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

 Done I removed requirement for having "Occupation"--Jarekt (talk) 02:10, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Regular expression constraints

Regular expression constraints are listed on https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Special:ConstraintReport/P1472 as problematic: "(?![Cc]reator\s*:)[^][|]+ is not a valid regular expression." can be found if you hover your mouse over the top line [?]. That expression was added by user:Multichill here. Is there a problem with the expression or with the Special:ConstraintReport? May be a better regular expression would be to catch strings with ":", "_", "%" characters, indicating use of namespace, underscores instead of spaces and non utf-8 characters encoded using utf-8 symbols? --Jarekt (talk) 14:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

@Jarekt: I think the regex part is broken? Even Special:ConstraintReport/P650 throws a warning. If you click the query you'll notice a remark: "differences in regex format between SPARQL (https://www.w3.org/TR/xpath-functions/#regex-syntax) and PCRE (used by constraint reports)". That might explain it.

This is a bit of a funky regex I think I pulled from P373. Regex on Commons category (P373) seems to be completely useless at the moment. Not sure why the old one was removed. Multichill (talk) 19:23, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Commons link constraint: Commons link should exist.

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T237920

Can we delete the constraint 'Commons link constraint: Commons link should exist'. It isn't clear which link to Commons it is demanding, we have 4 possibilities. I am assuming it wants the link in "Other sites" but when I add the category link I still get the error message. If it doesn't want a category link it must want the other type of link, the page where you can arrange the files in any order you want, but less than half of the categories have that type of page. --RAN (talk) 20:10, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

I am deleting it, it can always be restored, but it is giving over 10,000 warnings and there is no permutation of adding links to Commons that gets rid of it. --RAN (talk) 05:12, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

@Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ): The “Commons link” means the value that’s stored in that very statement, which is a page name on Commons; it has nothing to do with the Commons sitelink. Actually there’s a bug in the Wikibase software that causes these false positives, see phab:T237920. —Tacsipacsi (talk) 20:14, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks! I realized the constraint we have listed didn't correspond to the error, so I did not remove anything. --RAN (talk) 20:35, 7 February 2020 (UTC)

As of january 2021 it looks like this strange error still exists, as far as I can see on all places where the property is used. --Dick Bos (talk) 10:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

URL Match pattern

I have added a "URL match pattern" to allow tools such Q99894727 understand the relation between wikidata and these templates and to make linking them up very quick, ping me if you have any questions Back ache (talk) 11:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)