Property talk:P800

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notable work
notable scientific, artistic or literary work, or other work of significance among subject's works
Representswork (Q386724), magnum opus (Q491014)
Data typeItem
Template parameteren:Template:Infobox writer, parameter notableworks
Domain
According to this template: Person
According to statements in the property:
human (Q5), group of humans (Q16334295), fictional character (Q95074), group of fictional characters (Q14514600), pseudonym (Q61002), animal actor (Q52688389), art movement (Q968159), brand (Q431289), artificially intelligent entity (Q107307291), company (Q783794) or imaginary character (Q115537581)
When possible, data should only be stored as statements
ExampleWilliam Shakespeare (Q692) → Hamlet (Q41567)
J. K. Rowling (Q34660) → Harry Potter (Q8337)
School of Avignon (Q120143150) → Pietà of Villeneuve-lès-Avignon (Q521671)
ABBA (Q18233) → Waterloo (Q32503)
Tracking: sameno label (Q42533298)
Tracking: usageCategory:Pages using Wikidata property P800 (Q20990057)
See alsocontributed to creative work (P3919), notable role (P10606)
Lists
Proposal discussionProposal discussion
Current uses
Total132,641
Main statement132,31899.8% of uses
Qualifier2680.2% of uses
Reference55<0.1% of uses
Search for values
[create Create a translatable help page (preferably in English) for this property to be included here]
Value type “work (Q386724), rule (Q1151067), concept (Q151885), academic discipline (Q11862829), principle (Q211364), physical phenomenon (Q1293220), theory (Q17737), method (Q1799072), invention (Q14208553), mathematical model (Q486902), research project (Q1298668), project (Q170584), chemical reaction (Q36534), discovery (Q12772819), theorem (Q65943), product (Q2424752), organization (Q43229), collection (Q2668072), novel (Q8261), award (Q618779), knowledge (Q9081), design (Q41553020), edited volume (Q1711593), legal form (Q10541491), service (Q7406919), statute (Q820655), food (Q2095), activity (Q1914636), event (Q1656682), sporting event (Q16510064), type of manufactured good (Q22811462), graphic design (Q185925), identifier (Q853614), written work (Q47461344), approximation (Q27058), scientific model (Q193946), bridge (Q12280), fictional work (Q124301146), literary character (Q3658341), idea (Q131841), building (Q41176), architectural structure (Q811979)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value work (Q386724), rule (Q1151067), concept (Q151885), academic discipline (Q11862829), principle (Q211364), physical phenomenon (Q1293220), theory (Q17737), method (Q1799072), invention (Q14208553), mathematical model (Q486902), research project (Q1298668), project (Q170584), chemical reaction (Q36534), discovery (Q12772819), theorem (Q65943), product (Q2424752), organization (Q43229), collection (Q2668072), novel (Q8261), award (Q618779), knowledge (Q9081), design (Q41553020), edited volume (Q1711593), legal form (Q10541491), service (Q7406919), statute (Q820655), food (Q2095), activity (Q1914636), event (Q1656682), sporting event (Q16510064), type of manufactured good (Q22811462), graphic design (Q185925), identifier (Q853614), written work (Q47461344), approximation (Q27058), scientific model (Q193946), bridge (Q12280), fictional work (Q124301146), literary character (Q3658341), idea (Q131841), building (Q41176), architectural structure (Q811979) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#Value type Q386724, Q1151067, Q151885, Q11862829, Q211364, Q1293220, Q17737, Q1799072, Q14208553, Q486902, Q1298668, Q170584, Q36534, Q12772819, Q65943, Q2424752, Q43229, Q2668072, Q8261, Q618779, Q9081, Q41553020, Q1711593, Q10541491, Q7406919, Q820655, Q2095, Q1914636, Q1656682, Q16510064, Q22811462, Q185925, Q853614, Q47461344, Q27058, Q193946, Q12280, Q124301146, Q3658341, Q131841, Q41176, Q811979, SPARQL
None of novel (Q8261): value must not be any of the specified items.
Replacement property:
Replacement values: (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#none of, SPARQL
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#Type Q5, Q16334295, Q95074, Q14514600, Q61002, Q52688389, Q968159, Q431289, Q107307291, Q783794, Q115537581, SPARQL
Scope is as main value (Q54828448): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#Scope, SPARQL
Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)
Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P800#Entity types
With only one page
(Help)
Violations query: SELECT ?item ?value ?pages { ?item wdt:P800 ?value. ?value wdt:P1104 ?pages. FILTER (?pages = 1) }
List of this constraint violations: Database reports/Complex constraint violations/P800#With only one page
This property is being used by:

Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

This property is being used by:

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Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

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Definition[edit]

Are author (P50) <-> work (P800) inverse properties? In other words: Should all works of an author that have a WD item are added or only the major works? Please leave comments here. --Kolja21 (talk) 01:27, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to: Wikidata:Project chat/Archive/2014/02 --Kolja21 (talk) 18:00, 28 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Imho notable work (P800) should only be used for the (main) books of an author and not (single) editions or articles. --Kolja21 (talk) 03:19, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Major works only. Two or three per person unless they are pretty extraordinary. Filceolaire (talk) 15:07, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Imho this property can also be used for translators. Any experience with that or objections? --Kolja21 (talk) 19:55, 8 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"unless they are pretty extraordinary." Yes, this means that significant artists may have more masterpieces than two three. --Villy Fink Isaksen (talk) 06:26, 16 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

relevant art works in museums[edit]

Can't we use this property also for museums. IMHO this is better than to create another property. Query doesn't help here, as it gives back to many artworks. With view to the museum there are less artworks relevant. I really think about e.g. The Night Watch (Q219831) in Rijksmuseum (Q190804)--Oursana (talk) 11:45, 16 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

 Support I think it would be a good idea to extend it to museums. I note that Hirschsprung Collection (Q2982867) maintains their list of 20 œuvre notable [1]. It would be of interest to list these under Hirschsprung Collection (Q2982867). I do not see any problems using notable work (P800) for that. Is there? Alternatively one could construct a separate item called "20 main works in Hirschsprung Collection (Q2982867) and then use has part(s) (P527) — Finn Årup Nielsen (fnielsen) (talk) 13:12, 30 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also OK with that though such things are at risk to become Wikipedia:No original research (Q4656524). That's also why I wouldn't prefer the solution with extra items (and I wouldn't know how to link those extra items to the museum). --Marsupium (talk) 21:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not against this proposal. Wikipedia articles also contain a selection of notable painting, see for example en:Rijksmuseum#Gallery, so having a similar system here makes sense. I am against an explosion of items linked this way and against people edit warring over what item should(n't) be on the museum item. We could set a (arbitrary) hard limit to prevent the long lists, say 10, and assume good faith for the second part. Coming to think of it, the Wikipedia gallery good be generated based on this. Maybe not on the English version, but other language version (ca:Rijksmuseum?) could use a curated gallery. Multichill (talk) 21:57, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Will we do so?--Oursana (talk) 21:55, 14 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

as a qualifier for time of earliest written record (P1249)[edit]

Can I use notable work (P800) as a qualifier for time of earliest written record (P1249)? See for instance Manichaeism (Q131165). — nojhan (✐) 20:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Seems reasonable to me. Runner1928 (talk) 20:04, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Property_talk:P1249 recommends stated in (P248)
--- Jura 11:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure it's the right thing to use. For instance, Manichaeism (Q131165) has its time of earliest written record (P1249) in 242, because Shabuhragan (Q900603) has been written at this date. I know that because it's stated in (P248) Special:BookSources/3883090433. But in itself, the date is NOT stated in (P248) Shabuhragan (Q900603). However, I find rather straigtforward that Shabuhragan (Q900603) is an notable work (P800) of Manichaeism (Q131165) illustrating its time of earliest written record (P1249). Or maybe there is/should be a "earliest written record" property that does not take a date as parameter? — nojhan (✐) 16:38, 26 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

architectural firm[edit]

Can this property be used for notable works from architectural firm Q4387609? Breg --Pmt (talk) 13:08, 15 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Use this property for architects and work they have done?[edit]

I would suggest that this property is used also for buildings an architect has been part of creating - Salgo60 (talk) 07:00, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would second this. Several prominent architects (Anna Ter-Avetikian (Q20512995), Frank Lloyd Wright (Q5604), Dorothy Hughes (Q21176339)) items use this property to describe their works. If there is a more appropriate property, I would suggest making it a note of it here since several people think this is the property to use. Wskent (talk) 22:34, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
With reference to my post above dated 15 June 2017 I support this also Pmt (talk) 10:54, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! --Marsupium (talk) 10:00, 1 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Discoveries[edit]

Should this property be used for discoveries? Say, Kapteyn b (Q17128167) for Guillem Anglada-Escudé (Q26699548) or Americas (Q828) for Christopher Columbus (Q7322) --eugrus (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest discoverer or inventor (P61) see Q217369#P61 - Salgo60 (talk) 20:30, 12 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I mean the property to set on the discoverer's entity linking to his discovery, not the other way around. --eugrus (talk) 14:54, 13 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

representative of artwork type[edit]

I've added this as an alias, to indicate the case of representative artworks in collections that have been academically researched and that have helped to establish a type, for example American face vessels (Q81206146). This is most relevant to anonymous or folk artwork types of which there are only a few major examples in collections, and which are not likely to be notable for Wikipedia as individual pieces, but where we instead should cover details about all major examples in the Wikipedia artwork type article.--Pharos (talk) 17:51, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Limit?[edit]

Should there be a limit on the number of P800 statements on any given item, e.g., 5? There's a discussion at Wikidata:Project_chat#relevant_werk_(P800)_/_order. Ghouston (talk) 00:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural events?[edit]

What about someone who is known for organizing a cultural event, like a music festival or art show (regular or one-time, both can be notable)? It should be possible to connect such events to persons. Would the "notable work" be suitable for that, and if not, then which property should be used? --Ehitaja (talk) 11:25, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Ehitaja:. Good question. I'm leaning towards using significant event (P793). I updated Jan Smeets (Q2706183) as an example. Multichill (talk) 13:26, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Here, I have the impression that two different, although related meanings of the English word "event" might be crossing, creating confusion: something that happens ("in the event of fire, break the glass"), and an organized cultural gathering (cf. "event venue"). E.g., in the "significant event" item there's the instruction "Must be qualified with appropriate date and context properties." If somebody is known as the main organizer of an annual music festival, then it would mean that the dates of the festival each year should be under her item, which I'd consider illogical and superfluous, it would make more sense to keep such detailed data about an event in the event's item and not duplicated in other items (because every duplication increases the risk of incomplete and incorrect data, for such duplications aren't obvious in WD, and hence most bots and people won't update all of those at once). Cf: event (Q1656682), "temporary and scheduled event, like a festival or competition" vs. occurrence (Q1190554), "occurrence of a fact or object in space-time; instantiation of a property in an object" (synonyms: happening, occurrant, perdurant, event...). Of course, English is the curse of Wikidata, as many peculiarities of the language are established in the ontology, and then misinterpreted (or unfound, and hence mistreated) by non-(native)speakers, including me. --Ehitaja (talk) 15:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Event" is a general term for anything that takes place: some events are more complex and take longer than others. There's also founded by (P112) for the event item. Ghouston (talk) 00:30, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Singularregel[edit]

Hallo @Succu: "notable work" heißt auf Deutsch "bedeutendes Werk". Deine Übersetzung "bedeutende Werke" steht im Plural, und ist damit nicht nur falsch übersetzt, sondern stimmt auch nicht mit Eigenschaften wie "bedeutende Rolle" = notable role (P10606) überein. -- Kolja21 (talk) 21:33, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Add "group of works" to value-type constraint?[edit]

I think group of works (Q17489659) should be added to the list of accepted value types. Currently the statement George Frideric Handel (Q7302) - notable work (P800) - Concerti grossi, Op. 6 (Q5158540) is flagged since the latter is a group rather than a singular work, but it seems reasonable to allow as a value. 73.223.72.200 21:02, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Art movements[edit]

Hi there. I have just widened this so it can now be used on items for an art movement (Q968159). For example, School of Avignon (Q120143150) → notable work (P800) → Pietà of Villeneuve-lès-Avignon (Q521671). Thierry Caro (talk) 07:27, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bridges (and other works that aren't "works")[edit]

It seems that bridges can't be "notable works" because, the flag says, "Values of notable work statements should be instances or subclasses of one of the following classes (or of one of their subclasses), but XYZ Bridge currently isn't...". What's the best course of action here? Retired electrician (talk) 18:39, 8 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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