Property talk:P3438

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vehicle normally used
vehicle the subject normally uses

Represents	vehicle (Q42889)
Data type	Item
Domain	human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), fictional creature (Q2593744), transport infrastructure (Q376799), transport service itinerary (Q1067164) or transport company (Q740752)
Example	pope (Q19546) → popemobile (Q739445) Batman (Q2695156) → Batmobile (Q19958) Stephen Hawking (Q17714) → wheelchair (Q191931) Michael Knight (Q2248590) → KITT (Q1088996) President of the United States (Q11696) → Presidential state car (Q2745015) Marty McFly (Q2338941) → DeLorean DMC-12 (Q370524)
See also	mount (P3091), designed to carry (P3349), in operation on service (P10788)
Lists	Items with the most statements of this property Count of items by number of statements (chart) Items with the most statements Items with the fewest statements Count of items by number of sitelinks (chart) Items with the most sitelinks Items with the most sitelinks, but no link to one Wikipedia (sample: Welsh Wikipedia, cywiki) Items with the fewest sitelinks Most linked wikis Items with the most identifier properties By value of property Most statements Fewest statements Most sitelinks Most linked wikis Total of sitelinks on items Most identifiers Fewest identifiers Items with no other statements Most recently created items Items with novalue claims Items with unknown value claims Usage history (total) Usage history (main statement) Chart by item creation date Map of people by place values: place of birth educated at work location residence place of death place of burial January 1st dates People with date of birth on January 1 People with date of death on January 1 People with both dates on January 1 Database reports/Constraint violations/P3438 Map Random list
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Current uses	Total 5,337 Main statement 3,479 65.2% of uses Qualifier 1,858 34.8% of uses
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Value type “vehicle (Q42889), fictional vehicle (Q20871196), vehicle model (Q29048322), rolling stock class (Q811704), organization (Q43229)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31), subclass of (P279) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value vehicle (Q42889), fictional vehicle (Q20871196), vehicle model (Q29048322), rolling stock class (Q811704), organization (Q43229) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303). Known exceptions: The Doctor (Q34358), Donald Duck (Q6550), Mercenary Tao (Q2345108), Baron Munchausen (Q77066)
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3438#Value type Q42889, Q20871196, Q29048322, Q811704, Q43229, SPARQL

Allowed entity types are Wikibase item (Q29934200): the property may only be used on a certain entity type (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3438#Entity types

Scope is as main value (Q54828448), as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3438#Scope, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), fictional creature (Q2593744), transport infrastructure (Q376799), transport service itinerary (Q1067164), transport company (Q740752)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31), subclass of (P279)” with classes “human (Q5), fictional character (Q95074), fictional creature (Q2593744), transport infrastructure (Q376799), transport service itinerary (Q1067164), transport company (Q740752)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P3438#Type Q5, Q95074, Q2593744, Q376799, Q1067164, Q740752, SPARQL

This property is being used by: hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Աստղային պատերազմների կերպար, hy:Կաղապար:Տեղեկաքարտ Կոմիքսների կերպար uk:Шаблон:Метро, uk:Шаблон:Трамвайна система hu:Sablon:Vasúti járat infobox, hu:Sablon:Metró infobox be-x-old:Шаблён:Трамвайная сыстэма be-tarask:Шаблён:Трамвайная сыстэма Please notify projects that use this property before big changes (renaming, deletion, merge with another property, etc.)

Wheelchairs

Should this property be used for wheelchairs? They are vehicles in a sense, and use much the same technology as vehicles.--Pharos (talk) 20:03, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

I would say that it sounds reasonable.--Micru (talk) 09:25, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

I agree. Thierry Caro (talk) 05:37, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

Extend scope to public transport?

The original property proposal intended for this property to be used on (fictional or non-fictional) humans. However, the property seems generic enough (based on the description) to be used on public transport items to describe the vehicles used by individual lines or networks. For example, route 96 (Q12061652)vehicle normally used (P3438)E class (Q5321494). Looking at the current uses of this property, it seems like it has already been used as such, but I wanted to gather feedback first. Any thoughts? - Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 02:24, 10 December 2017 (UTC)

Multichill (talk) Thryduulf (talk) 21:38, 2 November 2013 (UTC) -revi (talk • contribs • logs)-- 01:13, 3 November 2013 (UTC) (was Hym411) User:JarrahTree (talk) 06:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC) A.Bernhard (talk) 08:28, 9 November 2013 (UTC) Micru (talk) 12:36, 9 November 2013 (UTC) Steenth (talk) YLSS (talk) 13:59, 25 November 2013 (UTC) Konggaru (talk) 12:31, 14 December 2013 (UTC) Elmarbu (talk) 21:48, 17 December 2013 (UTC) Nitrolinken (talk) 16:30, 14 February 2014 (UTC) George23820 ^Talk‎ 17:39, 17 August 2014 (UTC) Daniele.Brundu (talk) 21:34, 30 August 2015 (UTC) Dannebrog Spy (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2015 (UTC) Knoxhale 18:39, 26 June 2016 (UTC) happy5214 22:48, 8 July 2016 (UTC) Jklamo (talk) 07:32, 15 August 2016 (UTC) Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits DarTar (talk) 16:36, 5 September 2016 (UTC) Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 01:33, 10 November 2016 (UTC) Sascha GPD (talk) 23:00, 1 February 2017 (UTC) Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 09:09, 2 February 2017 (UTC) A1AA1A (talk) 18:17, 21 May 2017 (UTC) Mauricio V. Genta (talk) 13:56, 9 June 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson 10:26, 18 June 2017 (UTC) Danielt998 (talk) 05:01, 28 August 2017 (UTC) Maxim75 (talk) 06:04, 22 September 2017 (UTC) Fabio Bettani (talk) 17:48, 3 June 2018 (UTC) Geogast (talk) 23:51, 13 July 2018 (UTC) Bodhisattwa (talk) 19:29, 17 December 2018 (UTC) Jinoytommanjaly (talk) 13:13, 21 May 2019 (UTC) OktaRama2010 (talk) 00:25, 1 May 2020 (UTC) PhiH (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2020 (UTC) Jcornelius (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC) Mackensen (talk) 15:21, 29 August 2020 (UTC) Michgrig (talk) 22:04, 20 December 2020 (UTC) Trockennasenaffe (talk) 16:27, 5 September 2021 (UTC) Secretlondon (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2022 (UTC) GALAXYライナー (talk) 05:17, 14 October 2022 (UTC) Yirba (talk) 09:49, 10 August 2023 (UTC) Zwantzig (talk) 09:08, 07 September 2023 (UTC) S4b1nuz ᴇ.656^(SMS) 16:16, 21 November 2023 (UTC) Prefuture (talk) 07:02, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Notified participants of WikiProject Railways - Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 11:59, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

So we should e.g. Tōhoku Shinkansen (Q900665)vehicle normally used (P3438)E5 series (Q957322)? --Liuxinyu970226 (talk) 12:03, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Liuxinyu970226: Yeah. What do you think? - Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 23:55, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

I think that item operated (P121) is already in use for these item.--Jklamo (talk) 15:45, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

@Jklamo: Hmm, that's true, although vehicle normally used (P3438)subproperty of (P1647)item operated (P121), so we could change P121 statements whose values are of type vehicle (Q42889) to use P3438 instead. I have a feeling this might capture incorrect relations on some items though.

On another note, does it even make sense for a line or network to operate a vehicle? Because that's what both P121 and P3438 implies. - Pizza1016 (talk | contribs) 23:55, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

 Support the suggestion. Thierry Caro (talk) 05:34, 24 December 2017 (UTC)

@Pizza1016, Liuxinyu970226, Jklamo: I would even drop the 'normally' so that we can use this on items for plane accidents and the likes. Thierry Caro (talk) 05:42, 24 December 2017 (UTC)