Talk:Q96972379

Justification

Just as I did in Q11732757, I have replaced the contents of this item as they were false. No Wallachian language ever existed, I am Wallachian myself and this is fake. You won't find one single reliable source talking about this. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 15:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

That's not true. --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 19:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Лобачев Владимир, please show me any sources, I will bring you twice the number of sources denying the existance of a "Wallachian language". You're literally the only person I've seen in my life supporting this claim and I feel like you haven't seen many either. I could ping as many Romanian editors from Wallachia as I wanted and all would say the name: "Wallachian" is not a language. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 19:27, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Some information from Russian and English Wikipedia

CHRONOLOGY OF THE ROMANIAN LANGUAGE

The chronology of the formation of the modern Romanian language based on the folk Latin of Dacia is as follows:

• autochthonous languages of the Balkans (Getae, Dacians, Meuses, Illyrians, etc.) until the 2nd century AD. e.;
• folk Latin (Roman Dacia as part of the Roman Empire) II-III centuries AD. e.;
• Balkan Latin IV-VII centuries before the Slavic resettlement;
• the period of Slavic-Romanesque bilingualism of the VIII-XI centuries;
• formation of the proto-Romanian language of the XII-XIII century;
• Old Romanian, or Wallachian language of the XIV-XVIII centuries;
• Romanian language of the XIX-XXI centuries.

(Source – ru:Румынский язык)

NAMES

In the historiographic and scientific literature, there are various names of the language: from the XII century - Wallachian, Vlachian, Volosh (late Latin lingua Valachica) [7], Roman (Wallachian limba rumlenyaske) [8], Valacho-Moldavian; in the XX century - Old Romanian [1], Early Romanian [9], Romanian, Old Eastern Romanesque [10] [11].

According to the 16th century Hungarian historian Bonfiniy, the Vlachs spoke “in Latin” [12] or, as they say in modern sources, in the folk Romance language [13].

After the unification of the Wallachian and Moldavian principalities into a single state, a line is being pursued to oust the Slavisms and replace them with Latinisms and Gallicisms. Since 1860, the Cyrillic alphabet was officially replaced by the Latin alphabet [14], and in 1861 the language received a new name "Romanian" (rumînească) [15] [16]. (Source – ru:Румынский язык. Authoritative sources are indicated in the article)

В более узком смысле Румынский язык понимается как собственно валашский язык, получивший с конца XVI века литературное оформление в румынской части Трансильвании и соседней Валахии и ставший с тех пор общелитературным. (Source – Сергиевский М. В. "Румынский язык" // ru:Литературная энциклопедия)

An attested reference to Romanian comes from a Latin title of an oath made in 1485 by the Moldavian Prince Stephen the Great to the Polish King Casimir, in which it is reported that "Haec Inscriptio ex Valachico in Latinam versa est sed Rex Ruthenica Lingua scriptam accepta"—This Inscription was translated from Valachian (Romanian) into Latin, but the King has received it written in the Ruthenian language (Slavic). (Source – en:Romanian language) --Лобачев Владимир (talk) 06:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

All of this comes purely from the Russian Wikipedia. Again, Old Romanian was never called "Wallachian". It simply is not true. As I explained in my comment at Russian Wikipedia, Vlach (and not Wallachian) was an old term for the Romanians of Wallachia, Moldavia and Transylvania. But this does not mean there ever was a Wallachian language!!! Learn the differences between Vlach and Wallachian in English, please. And you've been taking advantage of the existence of this term to push falsehoods such as that "Wallachian" was the official language of Wallachia or that "Wallachian" is a different language from Romanian. You have not cited me any sources after like 2 days that say that Wallachian is a separate language, so stop with your edit warring. Wallachians called their own language "Romanian", just like Transylvanians and Moldavians. Please read Name of Romania#Etymology of the ethnonym Romanian (român). And I've also got a question for you, if Wallachians spoke "Wallachian" and Moldavians spoke "Moldovan", what did Transylvanians speak? "Transylvanian"? Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Лобачев Владимир, I see you did not answer me on Russian Wikipedia. I only notify you to know that my answer there also applies here. I have shown 5 sources that say that "Wallachian" is not a language or that it is a Romanian dialect, how many have you shown that prove the opposite? You cannot even cite old documents to prove the "Wallachian language" as you tried to do with "Moldovan" because the Wallachians always called their language and themselves as Romanian. Super Dromaeosaurus (talk) 11:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)