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Autodescription — Baden-Württemberg (Q985)
description: state in the southwest of the Federal Republic of Germany
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- Report on constraint conformation of “Baden-Württemberg” claims and statements. Constraints report for items data
- Generic queries for administrative territorial entities
This list of queries is designed for all instances of administrative territorial entity (Q56061). It is generated using {{TP administrative area}}.
Geography
- Places in Baden-Württemberg (query)
- Map of places in Baden-Württemberg (query)
- List of monuments (Monumental (Q29167605))
- List of places ordered by altitude (query) (Based on elevation above sea level (P2044).)
- Count of buildings by architectural style (query)
- List of highest buildings (query) (Based on height (P2048).)
- Organizations with headquarters in Baden-Württemberg (query)
- List of items which have power over or which apply to Baden-Württemberg (query) (applies to jurisdiction (P1001))
People
- People born in Baden-Württemberg, sorted by number of sitelinks (query)
- Main occupation of people born in Baden-Württemberg (query)
- People dead in Baden-Württemberg, sorted by number of sitelinks (query) (place of death (P20))
- People buried in Baden-Württemberg, sorted by number of sitelinks (query) (place of burial (P119))
- People living in Baden-Württemberg, sorted by number of sitelinks (query) (residence (P551))
Arts and fictions
- List of items with narrative location in Baden-Württemberg (query) (narrative location (P840))
- List of movies with filming location in Baden-Württemberg (query) (filming location (P915))
- See also: Wikidata:WikiProject Country subdivision
- See also
- This documentation is generated using
{{Item documentation}}.
With shares border with (P47), I've removed all neighboring units that are below the administrative level of German lander. I see no point in listing all of them here.--Kompakt (talk) 07:24, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Since P47 is reciprocal, the units should not be countries but first-level administrative subdivisions such as Swiss cantons.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:47, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- You suggest that a Swiss canton and a German land is just the same. From a legal point of view, there is no border between a German land and a Swiss canton, there's just a border between the souvereign countries of Germany and Switzerland - which would indeed mean to remove Switzerland and France as well.
- Another problem is that this won't work as soon as you get to lower levels of administrative subdivision. What is the Swiss counterpart of a Regierungsbezirk (Q22721), and what that of a district of Germany (Q106658), and what values should we enter for P47 with e.g. Konstanz (Q8206) and Freiburg Government Region (Q8167) accordingly?--Kompakt (talk) 09:11, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- The current solution explicitly violates reciprocity. We do not write (and we do not want to) that Switzerland borders Bavaria.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Another option would be not to mention other countries at all in shares border with (P47).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- This would probably be the best option. The idea of reciprocity looks good at a firat glance, but it totally neglects that countries have different administrative structures. A French Département isn't the same as a German land or a Swiss canton, actually it's more similar to a German Regierungsbezirk or Landkreis. France, unlike Germany, isn't a federal country. There are administrative layers in one country that don't exist in another-Kompakt (talk) 18:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I agree, and it was already discussed at least once. I think we should take it to a more general level like Project Chat or the property talk page.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:05, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- I do not agree. A small unit has borders to units of the same level, but maybe also a border to one or more units of a bigger level. Wikidata should avoid inherited information like "Frankfurt (Oder) (Germany) has a border to Lubusz Voivodship (Poland) and therefor Frankfurt (Oder) has a border to Poland and Lubusz Voivodship has a border to Germany". It is much easier to use the simple data "Frankfurt (Oder) has a border to Poland" and "Frankfurt (Oder) has a border to Lubusz Voivodship" and "Lubusz Voivodship has a border to Germany". --Sebastian Wallroth (talk) 14:03, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
- I agree, and it was already discussed at least once. I think we should take it to a more general level like Project Chat or the property talk page.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:05, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- This would probably be the best option. The idea of reciprocity looks good at a firat glance, but it totally neglects that countries have different administrative structures. A French Département isn't the same as a German land or a Swiss canton, actually it's more similar to a German Regierungsbezirk or Landkreis. France, unlike Germany, isn't a federal country. There are administrative layers in one country that don't exist in another-Kompakt (talk) 18:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- Another option would be not to mention other countries at all in shares border with (P47).--Ymblanter (talk) 11:32, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
- The current solution explicitly violates reciprocity. We do not write (and we do not want to) that Switzerland borders Bavaria.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:30, 5 June 2013 (UTC)