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list of property proposal for Wikidata[edit]

Dear Arthur, I have created a property proposal for wikidata, I hope I have done this correctly. In this process I have noticed that the page https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Authority_control was added however to an admin category of pages exceeding the allowed inclusions, I am not sure this is relevant, but I thought perhaps just to drop a message about that. Thank you very much! --Pietromarialiuzzo (talk) 13:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pietromarialiuzzo: Sure, it is a good start. Several pointers: (1) the "represents" line ("Subject item" in the template) should point to the item for the specific database ("Beta masaheft" in this case?) that the property is associated with, or other item that is specifically related to what the property does. You should probably create an item for this project if there isn't one already. You can move the current values you have here down to the "Domain" line. (2) the data type for this is surely "external-id" and not "string", as it is a real identifier for an entity with the project. (3) It is useful to link the examples (use the single-square-bracket '[' syntax) using your formatter URL to make it easy for readers to verify these links work and are useful. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

VG databases[edit]

Indeed, there sure are a lot :-) I’m conscious of the extra-load I’m causing :-/ ; will stop with these soon. And then process proposals myself, as penance ^_^'. Jean-Fred (talk) 17:53, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

…and thanks for your patience and diligence in processing these proposals (mine and others’), I appreciate it :) Jean-Fred (talk) 17:54, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Canmore monument type[edit]

Would it be possible to mark this proposal as "ready" too ?  :-) Jheald (talk) 18:49, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jheald: Done! ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:57, 3 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a Bot[edit]

Hello Arthur,

I asked if it is possible to add statements with a bot in a way what is similar to QuickStatements. Can you look to the page Wikidata:Bot requests and answer there please if you know a way how it works. I think it can help for big uploads. -- Hogü-456 (talk) 16:27, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Property proposal discussion progress[edit]

Please pardon my visit to your talk page with a request! Would you be willing to take a look at Wikidata:Property_proposal/WeChangEd_ID to see if you'd be up for creating it? Thank you for considering. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 22:14, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done! ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:29, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese label[edit]

I don't think it is a practice to add space between surname and given name in Japanese labels. None of Japanese article use this practice (example).--GZWDer (talk) 13:48, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I was just cutting/pasting from the source documents (which were Japanese websites). Chinese names don't use a space, but it seems to be common for Japanese. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:00, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@GZWDer: Example here. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:02, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
But if you think it's wrong I don't mind being corrected! ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:05, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Japanese Wikipedia does not use this convention (ja:WP:NC#PERSON). I don't know what should the practice of Wikidata be.--GZWDer (talk) 14:10, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, that jawiki page is fairly clear; I don't see any reason why Wikidata should be different, I'll follow that rule going forward (and fix ones I notice going back). Thanks. ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:39, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Property proposal - historic county[edit]

Thanks for looking in at Property proposal/historic county. Where do we go now to press the button on creating it? Does it need extra work because of the limited "Allowed values"? I've not done one of these before. Thanks. Hogweard (talk) 17:42, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Hogweard: Once the property has been created, other people can add constraints or do other parts of the process by editing the property page. So all that's really needed is to hit the "create" button - but you have to have "property creator" permission to do it. Since I was slightly involved I'd prefer if somebody else actually took that on in this case. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:41, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Creating properties for premodern works[edit]

If you would not mind creating these (I do not have the necessary permissions), I can subsequently tidy them up:

Thank you for your help with these! AndrewNJ (talk) 13:12, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Your help with all these is most appreciated! AndrewNJ (talk) 19:36, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@AndrewNJ: You're welcome! All done I think - a few of them were completed by somebody else. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:43, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hindi as language qualifier[edit]

I can not add Hindi as a language qualifier for my entries. It shows an error of code.

Please consult!

Murchana (talk) 12:47, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Murchana: I'm not sure exactly what you are trying to do - can you give me a link to the item you were trying to edit, and which property you were using? If it's a monolingual text property, then the language should be given as the "Wikimedia language code" - which should be 'hi' for Hindi. See the relevant statements on Hindi (Q1568). But if this isn't helpful please ask again! ArthurPSmith (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Property creation[edit]

Hi Arthur,

Would you review/create this (fairly urgent) and that. If you click create I/others will/can complete the properties. Also, I responded to your feedback on hardiness and Filceolaire. --- Jura 13:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Property proposal Donations[edit]

Hey @ArthurPSmith:, thank you for moving the Wikidata:Property proposal/Donations to Ready. Is there anything I can/should do to take this further? Or is there kind o a queue admins are working on? Best --Newt713 (talk) 14:48, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. Thank you! --Newt713 (talk) 14:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reverts[edit]

I really don't appreciate the reverts. Especially when the topic hasn't been resolved and most people disagreed with the premise that you can't translate a proper noun into English. I'm not doing this off of personal preferences and neither should you. If there's a sound policy based reason behind it, fine. But I have yet to see one and the fact that you ignored my examples and can't answer basic questions about it anymore then Matthew hk can shows your not doing it from one. I've been pretty reasonable about this and I really don't feel like edit warring. We should be able to settle it in a civil manor. Just reverting me instead of actually discussing it or at least providing an actual policy to base it on isn't though. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:06, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Btw, I asked about this on help:Label, because unlike you and Matthew hk I'm actually making a good faith effort to work this out. If there isn't a clear answer or the discussion involves canvassing/personal attacks from either of you, I will just revert you and report you for edit warring. Feel free to add a constructive, on topic comment to it if you have one though. --Adamant1 (talk) 00:06, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Adamant1: Sorry, I thought we had come to a conclusion there, and I went ahead and looked at the examples presented and tried to judge what was the right solution. If there's a specific question you still have that I haven't answered, feel free to go ahead and ask it again. ArthurPSmith (talk) 15:13, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's cool. It seemed like to that me that you and Mathew hk decided based on your opinions and just went ahead with reverting me without a sound reason behind it or actually explaining anything. Maybe it will be figured out in the label talk page though at least. --Adamant1 (talk) 03:49, 21 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Click[edit]

Hi Arthur,

Would you click create on the COVID one? I would complete it as needed. --- Jura 17:06, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

wikidata-externalid-url[edit]

Ciao ArturPSmith, do we continue to propose changes on your Git, but with formatter URL (P1630) = https://wikidata-externalid-url.toolforge.org/… or do we have to create a developer account?

What is the procedure?

Thanks for all. —Eihel (talk) 17:46, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

proposed changes in git is fine. Yes, the URL has changed, as tools.wmflabs.org is being switched over to the new toolforge.org domain with this pattern. But nothing else has changed. You'll start seeing this with all the other tools too (if you haven't already)! ArthurPSmith (talk) 01:54, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Eihel: Forgot to ping! ArthurPSmith (talk) 01:55, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

property creation: "banned in"[edit]

Hi Arthur! As you know, I proposed the property "banned in" recently to aid with interconnecting items. Instead of creating this property "banned in" you have suggested starting to create thousands of new data items like "Ban of slavery in Qatar", "Ban of chewing gum in Singapore", "Ban of Breitbart from en.wp", "Ban of Mediator in France".

I asked you to explain how such tri-partite items would be linked to the data items of fundamental interest on the discussion page but forgot to ping you. Could you explain how those looking for a list of all medicines banned in France in 2009, or for all the dates of slavery being banned, or for all the news organizations banned from en.wp could do so easily from your proposed reification of 1000s of banned in x predicates into items.

This would be very easy with a property, which is why I'm asking you to demonstrate that that information could be as easily recovered automatically with a SPARQL query. Before I start creating the reifications you suggest, I would like to be sure that this information would not remain inaccessible in the labels of thousands of items. Here is a link to the discussion for convenience. Thanks for your help cleaning up the disinformation in WikiData (e.g. the problem of benfluorex (Q421695) being listed as a medication, without mention that is banned in France, was taken off the market in Spain, Italy, etc.) SashiRolls (talk) 22:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate your perseverance. Please don't give up before you've explained your proposed model, though! Based on your additions I assume you plan to generate the query along the following lines: Find all (instances of ban) where (main subject = medication) and (date=2009) and (country = France). The sticking point I see is that (main subject = Benfluorex) is not the same as (main subject = medication) though Benfluorex is an (instance of a medication). I would love to see the SPARQL query you are aiming for... won't you be so kind as to add that last bit of pedagogy, please? So far, we've added an item and 4 statements to accomplish (perhaps?) what could be done with one property statement... SashiRolls (talk) 20:37, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, no problem. Thanks for trying to explain your intuition. SashiRolls (talk) 21:15, 18 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inviting editors for a short interview study[edit]

Hi Arthur,

I recently created an interview study research proposal to talk with Wikidata editors and understand their perception of Wikidata reuse. I have posted an invite on Wikidata project chat but I'm not getting responses. So I'm writing to ask if you could have any suggestions on other ways to recruit editors to participate. Thank you very much! Have a great day. Chuankaz (talk) 20:08, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Chuankaz: I'm not sure what to advise. For those who read your proposal in some detail it seemed to be looking for people who were roughly evenly divided in their editing of Wikipedia (do you mean in any language or just English?) and Wikidata, but I'm not sure there are many who fit that criterion - at least for myself I primarily edit only Wikidata, not anything else. I've occasionally edited English Wikipedia, and also in French, German, and some other languages, but in Wikidata I have thousands of times more edits. Maybe you should do a short first-round one or two-question survey to better characterize what you are looking for? ArthurPSmith (talk) 03:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the very useful advice! It would be great if participants have experience in editing Wikipedia only because it could provide a contrast of experience. It is not mandatory but I did not clarified it clearly in my proposal. I'll definitely adjust it. Thanks again! Chuankaz (talk) 03:17, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

National Film Board of Canada director identifier[edit]

Hi Arthur. Thank you for creating P6891 last year. I just noticed it, and was wondering if I should help by adding the ID codes from NFB.ca/ONF.ca to items on NFB filmmakers. My question is, how does it help, because at this time, it doesn't seem to appear as an authority control identifier on Wikipedia? thanks, Shawn à Montréal (talk) 00:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shawn à Montréal: It is helpful to link the NFB identifier to all the other external identifiers within Wikidata. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia rules on authority control but I suspect if there's a large enough/reliable set of identifiers on Wikidata then there is a process for adding it. ArthurPSmith (talk) 20:10, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, with that in mind I will start adding them in WD, if I can. Shawn à Montréal (talk) 20:15, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again. Actually thanks to Simon Villeneuve at frwiki it is being used. One either adds the template {{ONF}} or better yet it appears alongside other identifiers using {{Bases audiovisuel}}. So it is being put to good use. Shawn à Montréal (talk) 20:41, 4 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Songwriter[edit]

Regarding your revert: In my opinion it would make more sense to have lyricist as a subclass of author and songwriter as a subclass of lyricist and composer. What do you think? --Discostu (talk) 07:42, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Discostu: Actually the subclass statements on songwriter (Q753110) don't make sense as they are, and what you propose wouldn't really help: 'A' subclass of 'B' is supposed to mean that every instance of A is also an instance of B, but not every songwriter is a composer. Maybe it should go directly to creator (Q2500638) as superclass? Anyway, songwriter definitely shouldn't be a subclass of lyricist, as not all songwriters are lyricists. ArthurPSmith (talk) 12:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sports season[edit]

Hello, I must have done that by error, maybe due to confusion. Actually it should have been the rugby union season as subclass of sports season. -- Blackcat (talk) 07:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Dowker-Thistlethwaite name property[edit]

Hi! I've amended Wikidata:Property proposal/Dowker-Thistlethwaite name to take your suggestion into account. Could you take a look at the finished proposal, and check if it's OK? Kind regards, The Anome (talk) 14:20, 27 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New OpenRefine reconciliation service[edit]

Hi!

Thank you for wearing the {{User loves OpenRefine}} userbox on your user page!

Because the existing Wikidata reconciliation service has had severe performance issues recently, I have created a new one which should be faster and more robust. You can add it to OpenRefine in the reconciliation dialog with the following URL: https://wikidata.reconci.link/en/api (or by replacing en by any other language code).

If you have any issues with this new service, let me know.

Happy reconciling! − Pintoch (talk)

Thanks, I'll give it a try (I was just using OpenRefine last week, but probably won't be again for a little while...) ArthurPSmith (talk) 16:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata:Property proposal/Henrik Ibsen skrifter ID Edit conflict[edit]

An edit conflict occured. I hope my last edit made things a bit clearer (?). Pls have a second look if possible. Breg Pmt (talk) 18:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Pmt: Looks ok to me, thanks for letting me know. ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Opening hours[edit]

I think Syced and Hannes' concerns were addressed in the opening hours proposal. Would you mind going ahead and creating the property? NMaia (talk) 01:24, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

We sent you an e-mail[edit]

Hello ArthurPSmith/Archive/7,

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error in GRID[edit]

This entry contains an alias "Zūnyì yīxuéyuàn", which is wrong. How can this be removed?--GZWDer (talk) 16:47, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GZWDer: You can send GRID a message, or if you'd prefer I can do it, I've sent them many corrections in the past. It will probably take a few months to show up though, they don't update things very quickly. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:01, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

EMEF[edit]

Are you sure about this? As fas as I know, EMEF never had any operations in Amadora — rather in Campolide, Guifães, FFoz, Barreiro and elsewhere. In Amadora existed for several decades a much bigger rail manuf. company — Sorefame. Maybe there was some confusion between these two? Tuvalkin (talk) 04:14, 21 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Tuvalkin: That was based on the GRID data - here - but I didn't independently verify it, feel free to correct? ArthurPSmith (talk) 14:01, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I saw the GRID page you linked to — but how is GRID content created and sourced and why do we trust it? I will not correct it because I’m not 100% sure myself right now, but when I come around to find the necessary authoritative sources for each and every EMEF facility (there were many: EMEF is it’s mostly a 1990s privatization of all rolling stocks repair workshops in Portugal, and every major station had one) I will add the info to pt:EMEF, S.A. (and pt:Sorefame) — I will not come over to WikiData to waste my time clicking UI rat mazes, no offense. Tuvalkin (talk) 23:58, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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