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You merged Q30146803 status with grandfathered. Thousand items to reverse. Do not mess up the databank, please. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 01:55, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See https://www.mindat.org/glossary/IMA_status : "Valid - first described prior to 1959 (pre-IMA) - "Grandfathered" - Minerals published and recognised as valid prior to the establishment of the IMA in 1959 need not be approved, simply published in a peer-reviewed journal. Most of the common minerals we know today belong in this category."--Leon II (talk) 16:51, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the grandfathered minerals got valid in March 2007. I need a auxiliary item for the type description before the IMA-CNMNC era. This is the structure of the databank. Thx --Chris.urs-o (talk) 19:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see.--Leon II (talk) 20:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mine и deposit[edit]

Коллега, понятно, что статьи разные, однако для шаблонов-карточек разница невелика, потому что карточка для места добычи может использоваться и для месторождений вообще. Фактически русскоязычные карточки эквивалентны иностранным, они именно о местах добычи, а тот факт, что они так называют - случайность. Если вы очень настаиваете, придётся переименовать шаблоны в рувики, но я не вижу смысла отрывать их от иностранных чисто из-за отличия в выбранной терминологии при той же самой сути. Wikisaurus (talk) 10:07, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Для того, чтобы их различать, достаточно учесть тот факт, что одно месторождение могут разрабатывать несколько шахт/рудников и т.п. Плюс, по крайней мере, украинские и немецкие карточки шахт выраженно специализированные. Информация про месторождение там в привязке к операционной деятельности шахты. Шаблон в рувики не нужно переименовывать - он именно про месторождение, не про горнодобывающее предприятие. Его отдельные параметры, связанные с добычей, ничего не говорят о том, кто ведет разработку, не говоря уже о деталях.--Leon II (talk) 10:21, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

editing hydroxylherderite[edit]

Please be more careful. The backbone of this data structure is 'instance of:' 'mineral species' (IMA-CNMNC) and 'class of:' 'mineral classes' (1 to 10, Nickel-Strunz) in english (reference language). It is possible to destroy a lot, really fast. Set theory: set, subset; class of minerals, subclass of minerals; mineral supergroup, mineral group and mineral series. Thanks --Chris.urs-o (talk) 02:48, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I understood the principle. Thanks.--Leon II (talk) 17:15, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

== rotary hammer (Q1932875) and hammer drill (Q19599600) (Rotary hammer / Hammer drill)==

Hi Leon II,

I've reverted your changes on these items (the switch between them) because de, fr and nl all point to SDS type for rotary hammer (Q1932875) and non SDS type for hammer drill (Q19599600). Most wikis (like fr and ru) don't have an article for hammer drill (Q19599600) and use drill (Q58964) for both. Which wiki language did you base the switch on? The RedBurn (ϕ) 06:43, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi The RedBurn! I re-checked the content of the articles. You are absolutely right. I hastened to conclusions. Thanks!--Leon II (talk) 08:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Typical image?[edit]

Hi! I noted here that you want an image that is characteristic for the subject as a whole. Do you mind telling me what kind of image will be acceptable to you? Having no image at all is not a solution. Often a clear photographic example of a subject—together with an informative caption—will make both the infobox and the entry to a Wikipedia article much more understandable. It doesn't have to be perfect, as neither Wikipedia nor Wikidata are perfect. Can something being presented here be acceptable to you? Please return with a better estimation of your opinion on the issue, so I can understand you better. Allt the best.--Paracel63 (talk) 12:10, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Paracel63: Hi! I think, it may be the hammer and pick - the symbol of mining. It can indicate mining, mines (especially on maps or in cartography), or miners.
--Leon II (talk) 12:21, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the tip. I've now put it to use. However, I think it is may be less than optimal, being more of a symbol than an illustration. Hammers and chisels/picks are being used in more industry sectors. What I think would be optimal is a very visible and clear exponent of a mining industry landscape. Examples would be this or this. What do you think?--Paracel63 (talk) 09:45, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
OK. Why not both?--Leon II (talk) 09:58, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

== Category:Industry (economics) (Q6137609) ==

The en:Category:Industries and correspondingly Category:Industry (economics) (Q6137609) treats the meaning en:industry (economics) (and en:Industry classification), not the potential other meanings of en:industry. This is why Category:Industry (economics) (Q6137609) matches the de:Kategorie:Wirtschaft nach Wirtschaftszweig and not the more specialized de:Kategorie:Industrie nach Industriezweig. --S.K. (talk) 14:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@S.K.:OK. And what does de:Kategorie:Industrie nach Industriezweig mean in english, as you think?--Leon II (talk) 14:57, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There is no equivalent category in the English Wikipedia that I know of. And the German category is a German invention, not present in any current global en:industry classification. --S.K. (talk) 15:05, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@S.K.: It is not only German invention: ru:Категория:Экономика по отраслям = de:Kategorie:Wirtschaft nach Wirtschaftszweig and ru:Категория:Промышленность по отраслям = de:Kategorie:Industrie nach Industriezweig.--Leon II (talk) 15:19, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. But this is more or less a „Wikipedia invention“, it is not part of e.g. International Standard Industrial Classification (Q1666934). I created Q102201682 for this, so if the Russian category matches this meaning, one can add it there. --S.K. (talk) 16:56, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Merges[edit]

Hello. Be careful with merges, it is possible to destroy a lot. The bot "corrects" a lot afterwards. 'auxiliary status: published before 1959' was not 'grandfathered mineral (G)'. There are still some corpes left. There was a time before IMA/CNMNC, there is a history. 'mineral species' is not exactly 'mineral subgroups'. Nowadays, IMA/CNMNC only uses 'mineral series' and 'mineral homologous series'. There is still a history before IMA/CNMNC. Thank you. Regards --Chris.urs-o (talk) 16:52, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I`m carful (since then). ("'mineral species' is not exactly 'mineral subgroups'." - ??? It is obvious). Do You mean this merge ('mineral series' + 'mineral subgroups')? If this, then I think that the history of the terms is appropriate to reflect in the Wikipedia articles. Best regards and Happy New Year!--Leon II (talk) 08:21, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okidoki. Sorry for the typo. 'Property: different from' is supposed to avoid this merges. Regards and Happy 2021. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 10:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Call for participation in a task-based online experiment[edit]

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