Wikidata:Property proposal/LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer IDs

Description	identifier for an archive producer person in the database LombardiaBeniCulturali
Represents	Lombardia Beni Culturali (Q58428507)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	human (Q5)
Allowed values	MIDC00[\dA-F]{4}
Example 1	Wart Arslan (Q4018329) → MIDC000A71
Example 2	Wart Arslan (Q4018329) → MIDC00082C
Example 3	Emanuele Artom (Q3723879) → MIDC0007BA
Example 4	Antonio Cavagna Sangiuliani (Q27267729) → MIDC00017D
Source	http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/archivi/soggetti-produttori/persona/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Mix'n'match
Number of IDs in source	525
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/archivi/soggetti-produttori/persona/$1/
See also	SIUSA archive producer person ID (P6715)
Single-value constraint	no
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Italy

Description	identifier for an archive producer organization in the database LombardiaBeniCulturali
Represents	Lombardia Beni Culturali (Q58428507)
Data type	External identifier
Allowed values	MIDB00[\dA-F]{4}
Example 1	Longanesi (Q3259067) → MIDB001393
Example 2	Banca di Bedizzole - Turano Valvestino credito cooperativo scrl (numero REA 36043 Bs), Bedizzole (BS) (Q81167814) → MIDB00197E
Example 3	Ex Libris Museum, Albairate (MI) (Q81173196) → MIDB001324
Example 4	Teatro Sociale (Q3982162) → MIDB001A0C
Source	http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/archivi/soggetti-produttori/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Mix'n'match
Number of IDs in source	2612 (growing)
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/archivi/soggetti-produttori/ente/$1/
See also	SIUSA archive producer organization ID (P8357)
Single-value constraint	no
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Italy

Description	identifier for an archive producer family in the database LombardiaBeniCulturali
Represents	Lombardia Beni Culturali (Q58428507)
Data type	External identifier
Domain	group of humans (Q16334295)
Allowed values	MIDD00[\dA-F]{4}
Example 1	House of Barbiano di Belgioioso (Q3700648) → MIDD0000FD
Example 2	Fissiraga (Q89410059) → MIDD00025D
Example 3	Papadopoli (Q3894673) → MIDD000155
Example 4	Serbelloni (Q3955802) → MIDD0000EF
Source	http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/archivi/soggetti-produttori/famiglia/
External links	Use in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned use	Mix'n'match
Number of IDs in source	106 (growing)
Expected completeness	always incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URL	http://www.lombardiabeniculturali.it/archivi/soggetti-produttori/famiglia/$1/
See also	SIUSA archive producer family ID (P8356)
Single-value constraint	no
Distinct-values constraint	yes
Wikidata project	Italy

Notified participants of WikiProject Italy New properties from Lombardia Beni Culturali (Q58428507), authoritative database regarding the cultural heritage of Lombardy; rich information about people, organizations and families which produced archival funds. Epìdosis 09:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support --Luca.favorido (talk) 09:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Parma1983 (talk) 11:46, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Camelia (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support--Fausta Samaritani (talk) 13:44, 24 January 2021 (UTC) E con gran piacere![reply]
Support --Marcok (talk) 15:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support --Sentruper (talk) 15:39, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Luckyz (talk) 20:59, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Susanna Giaccai (talk) 09:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support --Yiyi .... (talk!) 12:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. YULdigitalpreservation (talk) 14:45, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Epìdosis: After creation, to add the examples, OR tells me that there is a constraint violation on Wart Arslan (Q4018329), because only one identifier is allowed per Item. A field is removed on each proposal. Cordially. —Eihel (talk) 18:25, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Seems to be the same identifier in all three. One property should do. --- Jura 19:32, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Luca.favorido, Parma1983, Camelia.boban, Fausta Samaritani, Marcok: @Sentruper, Luckyz, Giaccai, Yiyi, YULdigitalpreservation: Done by @Eihel: as LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer person ID (P9193), LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer organization ID (P9194), LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer family ID (P9195). @Jura1: There seems to be wide consensus (11 users including me) for having 3 properties, which follow the standard already establish for other archive-related websites (including BeWeB (Q77541206), SIUSA (Q63142852)). The main benefit I see in distinct properties is that they allow more precise constraints. If the community wants to change this practice, since it regards not only this case, I think a general RfC would be needed. Good night, --Epìdosis 22:24, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if much thought has gone into the choice, but it seems it was already created hours before I commented above .. --- Jura 22:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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