Property talk:P768

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electoral district
electoral district this person is representing, or of the office that is being contested. Use as qualifier for "position held" (P39) or "office contested" (P541) or "candidacy in election" (P3602)

Represents electoral unit (Q192611)

Data type Item

Template parameter krets in sv:Mall:Riksdagsledamot

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According to this template: Humans: specifically members of legislative bodies (local, regional, or national).

According to statements in the property:
human (Q5)

When possible, data should only be stored as statements

Example John Boehner (Q11702) → Ohio's 8th congressional district (Q7080711)
David Cameron (Q192) → Witney (Q874194)
Jimmie Åkesson (Q518776) → Jönköping County Constituency (Q10542122)

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Tracking: usage Category:Pages using Wikidata property P768 (Q30783700)

See also associated electoral district (P7938), office contested (P541)

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Total	467,356
Main statement	15,963	3.4% of uses
Qualifier	451,355	96.6% of uses
Reference	38	<0.1% of uses

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Value type “electoral unit (Q192611), municipality (Q15284), territorial authority of New Zealand (Q941036), administrative territorial entity of New Zealand (Q15063160), county (Q852231)”: This property should use items as value that contain property “instance of (P31)”. On these, the value for instance of (P31) should be an item that uses subclass of (P279) with value electoral unit (Q192611), municipality (Q15284), territorial authority of New Zealand (Q941036), administrative territorial entity of New Zealand (Q15063160), county (Q852231) (or a subclass thereof). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P768#Value type Q192611, Q15284, Q941036, Q15063160, Q852231, SPARQL

Scope is as qualifier (Q54828449): the property must be used by specified way only (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P768#Scope, SPARQL

Type “human (Q5)”: item must contain property “instance of (P31)” with classes “human (Q5)” or their subclasses (defined using subclass of (P279)). (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P768#Type Q5, SPARQL

Item “sex or gender (P21)”: Items with this property should also have “sex or gender (P21)”. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P768#Item P21, search, SPARQL

Contemporaries:
if [item A] has this property (electoral district (P768)) linked to [item B],
then [item A] and [item B] have to coincide or coexist at some point of history. (Help)

Exceptions are possible as rare values may exist. Exceptions can be specified using exception to constraint (P2303).
List of violations of this constraint: Database reports/Constraint violations/P768#Contemporary, SPARQL

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Qualifier of what property[edit]

Should this be used as a qualifier of position held (P39)? Or member of (P463)? Or maybe of instance of (P31)? I think it should be limited to one of them, so we can have a reasonable amount of consistency. --Yair rand (talk) 18:07, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think is more member of (P463), since it is more for the base MP and not the minister. I made a exemple of how I think it should be used.

Ruth Ellen Brosseau
  property: member of  
    value : House of Commons of Canada 
      qualifier : electoral district 
        value : Bertier—Maskinongé
      qualifier : start date 
        value : 2 may 2011

Feel free to comment. --Fralambert (talk) 20:30, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't quite understand how member of (P463) is more appropriate than position held (P39). How would your example be preferable to this:

Ruth Ellen Brosseau
  property: office held  
    value : Member of the House of Commons of Canada 
      qualifier : electoral district 
        value : Bertier—Maskinongé
      qualifier : start date 
        value : 2 may 2011

? --Yair rand (talk) 22:01, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We don't have really a item on member of Parliament (MP), but House of Commons (Q383590) and 41st Canadian Parliament (Q2816776) exist. Il think position held (P39) should be reserved to some officiel Parliament, like Leader of the Official Opposition (Q2506651), Prime Minister of Canada (Q839078) or event the whip (Q1433693). --23:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Currently, position held (P39) doesn't appear to be used like that. For example, many items have position held (P39) : Italian senator for life (Q826589). --Yair rand (talk) 23:23, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I guess this is a matter of how the languages are used and different kinds of offices are regarded. "Senator" maybe more sounds like an "office held" than "member of House of Commons of Canada" does. But I would like to treat these as equal, no matter how they are named. I have no strong opinion in which to use, as long as we use the same globally. The Swedish name: "Parlmentsledamot" is an "office held" with the word "member of" included in the name, but with the word "ledamot" instead of "medlem", which is more formal. -- Lavallen (block) 08:46, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Broaden to "representing group or district" ?[edit]

See Wikidata:Property_proposal/Generic#Representing. --Zolo (talk) 13:08, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

libellé en français[edit]

Bonjour, cette propriété apparaît sur deux lignes lorsqu’elle est utilisée dans la section fonction, laquelle gagnerait en lisibilité si on modifiait le libellé comme suit : circonscription électorale —> circonscription. Voyez par exemple Q3295269. genium ⟨✉⟩ 17:14, 23 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What if the person is not officially representing the electoral district?[edit]

In Germany there is the situation that politicians run for the German Bundestag (Q154797) in a specific electoral district, but make it in the parliament, even if they lose in their district.

Example: Anton Hofreiter (Q103519) was candidate for constituency for the Bundestag election München-Land (Q1008436), but lost, so the district is represented by Florian Hahn (Q1429695). Anton Hofreiter (Q103519) however became MP by the Bavarian "Landesliste". He has a office in constituency for the Bundestag election München-Land (Q1008436) like every official representative of any electoral district... (further reading: electoral system of Germany (Q481428))

Question: Means electoral district (P768) only, that they won in this district, or that they represent the district, even if they have not won? --Derfesl (talk) 18:11, 3 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

P768 as qualifier[edit]

Why is this property set only as qualifier. Breg--Pmt (talk) 13:56, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Use as qualifier for office contested (P541)[edit]

Previous discussion: Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Politics_infoboxes#Election_-_constituency_relation

Should this property be used as a qualifier for office contested (P541) in items for elections? Like position held (P39), office contested (P541) points to the item for a relevant position, so this seems like it may be a natural extension. (Currently, the description for P768 specifies only using this to qualify P39.) --Yair rand (talk) 21:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Yair rand: as it doesn't look like there's any objection to this, perhaps we should go ahead with formalising this as an acceptable approach? --Oravrattas (talk) 11:58, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edited the description. --Yair rand (talk) 22:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Broadening scope of property[edit]

Perhaps this could be used as a main value on election pages, to describe the district contested? I'm going to expand the scope of the property to allow this, but feel free to revert if there's another acceptable property. I don't see why this could not serve that function, though. Elli (talk) 15:34, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, looks like office contested (P541) does this, so I won't modify this. I added this as a "see also". Elli (talk) 15:39, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On second thought, that doesn't quite work - "Texas's 6th congressional district" wouldn't be a valid value, only "representative for Texas's 6th congressional district". Thoughts? Elli (talk) 15:41, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]