User talk:Ayack/Archive

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Page d'accueil en français

Salut Ayack. J'ai créé une page d'accueil en français accessible ici : Wikidata:Accueil principal. Je me suis basé sur ce que faisait Commons. Pour l'instant ça manque énormément de page d'explications et d'aide. Si tu as des questions, n'hésite pas, je tâcherai d'y répondre dans la limite de mes connaissances. Bonne continuation. --Deansfa (talk) 15:13, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Merci pour le message d'accueil, même si avec son bandeau noir j'ai un instant cru à l'annonce d'un décès :-)

Pour la page principale c'est parfait sauf qu'on est pas redirigé dessus lorsqu'on se connecte en français. Je vais essayer de voir comment c'est géré dans Commons. Ayack (talk) 15:29, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Le truc c'est que la page d'accueil est protégée en écriture (je crois qu'elle l'est pour les nouveaux utilisateurs). Sinon j'aurai ajouté un cadre « interlangue » comme sur Commons que j'aurai mis bien en vue sur la page d'accueil en anglais. Je crois que les utilisateurs auto-confirmé peuvent éditer la page d'accueil en anglais, donc si je passe auto-confirmé, j'ajouterais le cadre « Page d'accueil interlangue ». --Deansfa (talk) 15:37, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Suggestion de propriétés

Bonjour,

Je découvre encore WikiData mais j'aurais deux-trois questions à propos des propriétés (en lien avec les MH).

Ne serait-il pas pertinent de demander la création d'une property Palissy (identique à Property:P380 Mérimée mais pour les MH objets). Seul point contre : il y a encore peu d'articles sur Wikipédia sur les MH objets.

Peut-on utiliser une même propriété plusieurs fois par item ? (nombreux sont les MH à posséder deux identifiants Mérimée ; les qualifiers peuvent-ils aidés ? je n'ai pas encore bien saisi comment ils fonctionnents).

Ensuite, plus complexe, comment fonctionne exactement les champs allowed values et suggested values (la documentation ne dit rien pour le second ? serait-ce la valeur par défaut ??). Pour Mérimée, peut-on indiquer « 2 letters [PEI]A follow by a 8 digits number »

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 17:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

"monument historique classé"

Bonjour, j'ai lancé une discussion sur l'appellation "monument historique classé" et son application aux meubles/immeubles, si ça t'intéresse. --Zolo (talk) 17:41, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

De mon côté, me posant beaucoup de questions sans réponses, j'ai lancé une discussion sur Wikidata talk:Cultural heritage task force. Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 19:13, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

P:P611 "religious order", P:P612 "mother house" are available

Hi,

The above property is now available and can be used on items. I noticed you first proposed its creation. --  Docu  at 18:36, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

P:P614 "archipelago" available

Hi,

The above property is now available and can be used on items. I noticed you first proposed its creation. --  Docu  at 19:33, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

P640

Hello, Ayack. You have new messages at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js#P640.
Message added by Ricordisamoa 11:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

re: How to express several periods through qualifiers?

Go ahead and check Q203404 and see if you like my solution to the issue you raised. Sven Manguard Wha? 18:40, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Two similar requests

Hi! I noticed that you made 2 requests here: [1]. But, they look the same, except one has "create if needed". I think you can just edit the page, and change/delete as needed. Danrok (talk) 16:18, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

You're right. An "Unknown Error!" message fooled me. Thanks!. Ayack (talk) 17:10, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

MH sur Wikidata

Salut,

J'ai un peu de mal à savoir où l'on en est sur Wikidata en terme de MH. Si je ne me trompe pas, la propriété P380 n'est utilisé que 91 éléments (Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P380). Est-il possible de savoir combien il y a de'élément appelant Q10387684 (MH classé) Q10387575 (MH inscrit) ? De plus, faut-il tous remplir à la main ou bien y a-t-il moyen de récupérer automatiquement les informations (notamment celles présentes dans les infoboxes) ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:47, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Apparemment, il y a 6350 MH classés et 7265 MH inscrits renseignés comme tels sur Wikidata. Pour récupérer les infos contenues dans les modèles (infobox ou autre) je pense que ça peut se faire assez facilement. Il faudrait juste faire une demande à un bot (je n'ai pas trop le temps en ce moment). Ayack (talk) 11:02, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

creating properties

Hi. I just see you created some properties yesterday, which is great. Just two little points you perhaps don't be aware. You copied the proposal discussion to the archive, which is very good. But I see the status is still "in progress" (grey). As soon as you've created the property you can enter the ID (without leading P) to the status field, so the color will change the green and the text "done" is appended. The second point is just a tip, you perhaps feel other, but in my opinion it would be good to mark the proposal discussion on the property discussion site as closed. Take a look at a property I created here. You see the block and the background color and the warnings at the top and bottom? This is just a warning the discussion is closed and nobody should add comments. You just have to put {-{discussion top}-} and {-{discussion bottom}-} (without the -) to the wikicode. It's not really necessary, but in my opinion it's a good way. However, thanks for creating properties. --Nightwish62 (talk) 19:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice! Ayack (talk) 14:36, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

cultural property (Q2065736)

Bonjour, classified historical monument (Q10387684) étant une sous-classe de Historical Monument (Q916475), qui est lui même une sous-classe de heritage site (Q358), lui même sous-classe de cultural property (Q2065736) (ouf !), il me semble redondant de mettre ce dernier comme nature d'un élément en plus de classified historical monument (Q10387684), non ? Ayack (talk) 13:40, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Je n'ai pas de préférence sur ce truc, mais ça semble la tendence générale de mettre l'inscription patrimoniale + Bien culturel. Peut être lancer une discussion sur Mérimée ID (P380) ou bien Wikidata:Cultural heritage task force? --Fralambert (talk) 22:40, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations, Dear Administrator!

English | español | français | Nederlands | русский | +/−

An offering for our new administrator from your comrades... (our gift is better than the one at Commons or Meta)

You have your gun; now here's your badge: {{User admin}}/{{#babel:admin}} and {{Admin topicon}}. Enjoy!

Ayack, congratulations! You now have the rights of administrator on Wikidata. Please take a moment to read the Wikidata:Administrators page and watchlist related pages (in particular Wikidata:Project chat and Wikidata:Administrators' noticeboard), before launching yourself into page deletions, page protections, account blockings, or modifications of protected pages.

Please feel free to join us on IRC: #wikidata-admin @ irc.freenode.net. If you need access, you can flag someone down at #wikimedia-wikidata @ irc.freenode.net. You may find Commons:Guide to adminship to be useful reading, although it doesn't always completely apply here at Wikidata. You may also want to consider adding yourself to meta:Template:Wikidata/Ambassadors, and to any similar page on your home wiki if one exists. (WT:Wikidata/Wikidatans on En-WP.)

Please also add/update the languages you speak to your listing at Wikidata:List of administrators. You may also like to add your username to this list if you would not like that items you delete at RfD get marked as deleted automatically. Again, welcome to the admin corps!

--Ymblanter (talk) 08:35, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Please accept my congratulations with the promotion.--Ymblanter (talk) 08:35, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Félicitation! --Fralambert (talk) 13:13, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Et un franco de plus!!! Bravo. Benoit Rochon (talk) 18:24, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Congrats. Always good to have administrators who actually proposed properties!

BTW Would you add my requests from User talk:Legobot/properties.js/requests to User:Legobot/properties.js? I double-checked them two weeks ago and will review the result afterwards. --  Docu  at 10:52, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Done! Ayack (talk) 11:46, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

said to be the same as (P460)

Bonjour, je ne suis pas sûr du bon libellé, mais "semblable à" ne me parait pas convenir. Il me semble que semblable veut dire soit "même que", et il n'y aurait pas de raison d'avoir deux éléments, soit "ressemble à", ce qui n'est pas le sense de la propriété. --Zolo (talk) 06:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

A vrai dire, j'ai du mal à comprendre l'usage de cette propriété... Une traduction de l'anglais serait « réputé identique à » mais quelle est son utilité ? Ayack (talk) 07:39, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Oui, « réputé identique à » doit convenir. Je pense que ça sert surtout pour l'histoire, et sans doute pour certains champs scientifiques. L'exemple donné dans la proposition/documentation est celui de deux personnages historiques qui semblent être la même personne selon certaines sources ou hypothèses, mais distincts selon d'autres. --Zolo (talk) 08:43, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, merci. J'ai fait le renommage. Ayack (talk) 08:57, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Le père Tanguy

Bonjour, Sa vie est très mal connue. Cet articulet sur la wiki fr était en piteux état lorsque je suis intervenu dessus. Le personnage est fascinant (paternel, peut être communard, etc ... etc ...) Mais il n'y a pas matière à deux articles. Sans doute wiki en grand public est-elle moins sensible au coté bio du Père Tanguy, tellement les tableaux de Van Gogh sont fameux. L'article en est bien ficelé, j'y ai ajouté la notice d'Octave Mirbeau. Très peu de sources et la seule qui existe s'avère particulièrement fausse le livre d'Emile Bernard. Je ne vois pas pourquoi ce serait les machines qui commandent. The Wikipédia have you follow the black link. Bonne journée Mike Coppolano (talk) 11:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Je ne suis pas vraiment d'accord. Ton article est largement assez développé pour avoir une existence autonome, et l'article anglophone montre bien qu'on peut, à côté, développer un article sur les tableaux. Ce qui est certain en tout cas, c'est qu'il existe sur Wikidata deux items différents : Julien Tanguy (Q2512019) consacré à l'homme et Portrait of Père Tanguy (Q13528770) consacré aux tableaux et qu'ils ne sont donc pas fusionnables pour des raisons logiques (et non techniques). Par ailleurs (tu le sais sans doute mais je préfère le préciser au cas où), il ne faut pas oublier que Wikidata est un projet indépendant qui n'est pas (seulement) destiné à gérer les liens interwiki. Par conséquent, on ne peut mélanger des concepts à seul fin de lier des articles sur des thèmes proches. Ayack (talk) 11:54, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Re-bonjour,

Tout ce qui est mode d'emploi n'est pas ma tasse de thé donc ok pour Wikidata projet indépendant pas seulement liens interwiki mais je m'en doutais un peu, je le sais donc vraiment à ce jour. C'est pigé. Mais fondamentalement pour avoir passé des heures sur le net à glaner des sources sur le bonhomme Tanguy et aussi pour savoir qu'un tableau est un article à part entière, je te donne raison, mais d'après ce que je dis en premier lieu, le manque de sources, je crois qu'à moins que l'on retrouve une malle dans un grenier avec de la doc sur le père Tanguy, on en saura jamais plus que ce qu'on en dit actuellement sur la vie de Julien Tanguy (et encore les sources sont tronquées). Par ailleurs, ce qui m'ennuyait est que l'article français n'avait pas de liens interwikis, tant pis il restera ainsi. Mais bon tout est dit sur l'article fr. Merci pour ton point de vue valable. Reste à créer l'article sur les tableaux du père Tanguy sur wp:fr. (Autre exemple de scission d'articles : J'ai créé fr:Café écossais Cgolds qui a rédigé avec moi était pas d'accord pour deux articles (+ cahier écossais) mais les Polonais après la guerre de 40 et le massacre des professeurs de Lwow, ont remis un cursus d'études et le second fr:cahier écossais (de notoriété moindre). Bon bonne journée à toi et encore merci pour les éclaircissements sur Wikidata. Bonnes contributions. Mike Coppolano (talk) 14:25, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Label Collector

Hi Ayack. You are using my Label Collector script (thanks for this!), and as far as I can see, you're the only one who has made some configurations for it in his common.js file. Since publishing it I worked quite bit on it to make it more generally and more easily usable. Now it's in a state where I hope it to be usable without the need for any customization, and so I dropped all remaining options today. The lcUiLang, lcEditorLanguages and lcHideWithoutSitelinks options in your common.js are without any effect now. For you as for anyone else, now the behaviour is: The UI langage is in your user language (if possible, English otherwise, so no change here), entries for all languages that have sitelinks or labels or descriptions or that are in your Babel languages are shown and can be edited, but all not being in your Babel languages are collapsed by default, meaning that no changes will be saved there. Your Babel languages are auto-collapsed (not completely hidden any more) if there are no sitelinks or if they are already filled. So for you, French, English and Spanish are always shown, may be auto-collapsed, but can be expanded if want to edit something there nonetheless. I hope you can work with this and like the changes. If you have any ideas what could be improved, just let me know. Otherwise, I won't be bothering you any more. Have a nice day. --YMS (talk) 17:22, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for your work. Ayack (talk) 12:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

BAV (Vatican Library) identifier

Dear friend, Thank you for the project:Property proposal/Authority control#BAV proposal. Best regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:14, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

P.S. missing properties linked to VIAF לערי ריינהארט (talk) 20:23, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! — Ayack (talk) 20:28, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js#NLR

Hi! I could see thet you modified MediaWiki:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js and MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js.
I am waiting for some days about the MediaWiki talk:Gadget-AuthorityControl.js#NLR change.
Please first wait until alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991 is available (I saw it first time 503 Service Temporarily Unavailable).
Then please try these links:

http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=000354872&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10

The link is from :ro:Discuție:Mihail Șolohov. see Mikhail Sholokhov (Q42398) .
I did not add the identifier there.

http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=000322507&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10

for Rose Ausländer (Q60873) NLR 000322507

http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-b&request=000322507&find_code=SYS&adjacent=Y&local_base=NLR10

for Anton Sterbling (Q101235) NLR 000322507

Note: the following pages link to NLR (Romania) identifier (P1003).

Best regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 22:11, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

P.S. National Library of Romania (Q622012) is back again.

Similar to http://aleph.nkp.cz/F/?func=find-c&local_base=aut&ccl_term=ica=kn20010711414

is http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/F?func=find-c&local_base=NLR10&ccl_term=SYS=000322507 for Anton Sterbling (Q101235) NLR 000322507

http://alephnew.bibnat.ro:8991/f?func=find-c&local_base=nlr10&ccl_term=sys=000322507 using lowercase characters only does not work: 404 Not Found

לערי ריינהארט (talk) 04:56, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for the help during the whole process. I will verify the existance of Romanian labels at special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P1003|limit=500&uselang=ro and special:WhatLinksHere/Property:P1003|limit=500&uselang=eo

Do you now people specialized on labels for uselang=<foo>?

Do you know bots specialized in importing date of birth (P569) , date of death (P570) , place of birth (P19) , place of death (P20) , place of burial (P119)

Best regards לערי ריינהארט (talk) 10:20, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Date pour les monuments historiques

Bonjour, j'ai vu que tu ajoutais la date d'inscription / classement des monuments historiques dans le champ "nature de l'élémnet". A mon avis, il vaudrait mieux utiliser start time (P580) que point in time (P585), qui est normalement utilisé pour les événements ponctuels (et qui conviendrait par exemple pour significant event (P793): arrêté d'inscription, date : XX). --Zolo (talk) 12:49, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Ça se tient en effet. Je vais prendre en compte ta remarque, merci. — Ayack (talk) 13:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Merci, autre chose, je pense que la nature de "janvier 1875" est "date" plutôt que "mois". D'après Wikipédia, le mois est une unité de temps, et "nature : date" me paraitrait s'appliquer plutôt à "novembre" ou "vendémiaire" qu'à un mois d'une année particulière. Je verrais bien une propriété du genre "précision" pour indiquer qu'il s'agit d'une date contenant un mois, mais je ne suis pas très sûr. --Zolo (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

@Zolo : Je me suis basé sur 1879 (Q7783) qui a year (Q577) pour nature. Ce n'est peut-être pas ce qu'il y a de mieux, mais ça me semble au moins cohérent. — Ayack (talk) 21:07, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Oui, c'est harmonisé mais ça n'est pas vraiment correct et ça risque de poser des problèmes à terme (si mars 1875 est une instance de mois et mois une sous-classe d'unité de temps, "mars 1875" est une unité de temps). Du coup, je dirais qu'il faudrait tout changer :|, et remplacer par quelque chose du genre : "1875. nature : date, durée : année ; mars 1875 : nature : date. durée : mois". --Zolo (talk) 21:34, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

wikidata useful.js

Bonjour, merci pour tes modifs sur wikidata useful.js, c'est plus clair et plus complet. Pourrais-tu répercuter les modifs de Magnus Manske en français ? Merci Leag ⠇⠑⠁⠛ 08:46, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

@Leag :  Done avec quelques ajouts supplémentaires. — Ayack (talk) 10:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

@Ayack : merci pour ton efficacité Leag ⠇⠑⠁⠛ 10:46, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Meilleurs vœux pour cette nouvelle année. J'ai vu tes modifications sur wikidata useful. Pourrais-tu raccourcir personnage de fiction en pers. de fiction et virer celui-ci de la section Œuvre ? Merci d'avance. Pourrais-tu également ajouter quelque part (dans œuvre peut-être) un lien vers jeu de société (Q131436) et jeu de cartes (Q142714) ? Je vais en avoir besoin pour classer tous les jeux du fr:Portail:Jeux. Merci Leag ⠇⠑⠁⠛ 10:23, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

@Leag :  Done, avec tous mes vœux. — Ayack (talk) 19:25, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

@Ayack : Merci Leag ⠇⠑⠁⠛ 09:51, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

About how to use AyackBot

hi now I have a work to add imformation from infobox of wikipedia to a item, may I use your bot and how can I use your bot? Look forward your reply, thanks!

@user:Qianwei0823. Hi! You have to submit a request on Wikidata:Bot requests. Thanks. — Ayack (talk) 10:00, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Arnold Pannartz and Konrad Sweynheim (Q777725)

Concerning this diff: Those are articles abot two men, or, it could be argued, one printer (Q6500733). They also exist seperately as Arnold Pannartz (Q7220735) and Konrad Sweynheim (Q3687174). --HHill (talk) 13:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

@HHill: You're right. Thanks for the change. — Ayack (talk) 14:03, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Dispatch Lag and Bots

Hello, Today Lydia and I noticed that DispatchStats have been increasing since the Wikiquote deployment. Currently the lag is at around 18 hours, which means all changes being made to Wikidata are taking more than 18 hours to be reflected on Wikimedia wikis.

Because of the high dispatch lag, we are asking if all bot operators could please stop their bots or have them tone down the number of edits for around 24 hours in order to allow Dispatch to catch up at a minimum. If possible, we would appreciate bot operators to stop bots until dispatch is down to a low level (which may be more than 24 hours), you can view the stats at Special:DispatchStats. Lydia has posted a similar message to this at Wikidata:Project Chat and the mailing list where we have asked all uses of Widar or other high editing programs to stop.

Since Dispatch is an important part of Wikidata and it is essential that changes are reflected on Wikimedia wikis as soon as, if Dispatch is still an issue tomorrow morning (around 11:00 UTC), we may choose to stop bots from editing Wikidata for a selected time of around 12 - 24 hours or until the bot has been stopped. If you have any queries, feel free to poke me or Lydia Pintscher, or post on project chat or reply to the email. Thanks, John F. Lewis (talk) 14:11, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Lydia discovered the issue behind high dispatch was changes were not being dispatched at all. Unless this issue is fixed and changes begin being dispatched, Lydia has asked that bots be stopped by 17:30 UTC (in two hours) to reduce the amount of disruption to Wikimedia wikis with data dispatching in future. Please contact her if you have any queries. John F. Lewis (talk) 15:27, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Bot stopped. — Ayack (talk) 16:03, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Massacre of the Innocents (Q643474)

https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q643474&action=history: a biblical narrative cannot have canonization. Regards--Oursana (talk) 23:56, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

@Oursana: Indeed, thanks. — Ayack (talk) 16:56, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Hi, I have reverted a lot of edits like this, Probably you use "Whats link here" with disambiguation template, but isn't always correct, it's better to use Special pages --ValterVB (talk) 10:22, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

@ValterVB: Thanks! I don't know why I did this. I'll be more careful next time. — Ayack (talk) 16:55, 11 May 2014 (UTC)

bot is malfunctioning

Hi, your bot has added incorrect gender claims to Q5676, Q18349, Q26372, Q31523, and probably others. At the very least I would advise going through [2]. Haplology (talk) 03:24, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

On further investigation it seems you've mislabeled quite a large number of people starting here Mostly it's Japanese or Chinese writers, but an Emperor of Japan was even assigned female gender, so I can only speculate on what happened. I hope there's some way to fix this..

@Haplology: Ooops! I see what happened. I'll correct it today. Thanks. — Ayack (talk) 07:59, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

@Haplology:  Done. — Ayack (talk) 08:24, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but it appears that it's not completely done: Q1273650, Q1284291, Q3049514, Q3065476, Q3071863, Q3071875, Q3072199, ... Haplology (talk) 02:54, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Haplology: This time it should be OK. — Ayack (talk) 10:30, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Q1164879

Thanks for [3] and similar, it made a difference. There is still no shortage of wrong properties to fix. :) --Nemo 20:03, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

@Nemo_bis: You're welcome! — Ayack (talk) 20:21, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Merging items

Hallo Ayack,

For merging items, you may want to use the merge.js gadget from help page about merging. It has an option "Request deletion for extra items on RfD" to automatically place a request to delete the emptied page. This way of nominating makes it a lot easier for the admins to process the requests.

With regards,
- - (Cycn/talk) 06:51, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Be a bit more careful when merging items - you merged Chao Chet (Q15980709) with Chao Chet (Q16500077), however the two items were on two different things which just shared the same name. A bit like you merged New York City with New York state. There are still tons of real duplicates, so when in doubt better skip the merge and go to a more obvious case. Ahoerstemeier (talk) 08:36, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

@Ahoerstemeier: Sorry, I've just restored it. — Ayack (talk) 08:42, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Invalid P625 again

Hi, your bot add coordinate location (P625) invalid way again: [4]. Please exclude objects like peoples, companies, spacecrafts from processing. Coordinates must be added more accurate way to such items. Please see Eugene Bullard (Q1367535) as example. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 20:00, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Pb avec AyackBot

Salut, AyakBot a attribué la nationalité française à plein d'item qui ne sont pas des être humains (à moins que ce soit toi avec des Query) : 1

Une bonne stratégie pour éviter les items qui sont catégorisés de façon un peu hasardeuse dans WP : Commencer par attribuer P31:Q5 à tous les items d'une hierarchie qui sont effectivement des humains, puis pour affecter les autres propriétés (nat, sexe, profession), exclure de la query ceux qui n'ont pas P31:Q5.

--LBE (talk) 17:25, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

@LBE: J'essaye de faire attention, mais il y en a toujours qui passent à travers. Merci pour ton alerte. — Ayack (talk) 10:57, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Sans enfant ?

Bonjour,

En vérifiant l’arbre généalogique des de Broglie, je viens de tomber sur ta modification d’avril dernier sur Achille de Broglie (Q2823117). Est-ce volontaire pour indiquer qu’il n’a pas eu d’enfant ? Est-ce une pratique recommandé ? De plus, je suis curieux, l’interface ne permet pas d’enregistrer « aucune valeur », comment as-tu procédé ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:57, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

@VIGNERON: C'est volontaire, oui. Après est-ce une pratique recommandée sur Wikidata, je l'ignore, mais c'est courant en généalogie pour indiquer une « branche morte » (au sens qu'il n'y a pas de descendants à chercher). Pour renseigner « aucune valeur », il faut cliquer sur l'icône qui apparaît quand tu édites une déclaration. — Ayack (talk) 09:10, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Merci pour ces explications, je ne connaissais pas ce truc.

Merci aussi pour Emmanuel de Broglie (Q17485075) et François Marie Albert de Broglie (Q17485080) (là aussi, j'ai découvert deux-trucs utiles pour plus tard, notamment ça si je ne me trompe pas, d'ailleurs la description de military officer (Q189290) devrait sans doute être changée).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:14, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Coordinates of peoples and spacecrafts

Hi, please be more careful during data import: [5], [6], [7], ... — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk)

Hello, your bot makes same errors again. Please stop it and remove invalid coordinates. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 03:35, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, could I delete coordinates of humans now? Or your bot will add its again? — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 15:28, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Ivan, I was trying to do it by myself but I have a problem with the script (see here). I won't add them again. Thanks (and sorry for the mess). — Ayack (talk) 18:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

I deleted coordinate location (P625) added by your bot from person and spacecraft items. I never used pywikipedia so can not help with it. But I can execute concrete tasks using my bot if needed. — Ivan A. Krestinin (talk) 08:27, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Capitalization

Hi, I saw that you reverted my capitalization of the English label of Battle of Gettysburg. This is a name / proper noun, so IMHO it should be capitalized, as described in the Help [8]. Thanks :-) Fred Johansen (talk) 19:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Fred Johansen, Battle of Gettysburg (Q33132) is a battle which took place near Gettysburg. So I don't see it as a proper noun. But since I'm not fully fluent in English, I won't argue on this (and I don't really care as I mainly use Wikidata in French). — Ayack (talk) 20:22, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Adding National Heritage List for England number (P1216) to lists

Hi Ayack, you're bot seems to have erroneously added a lot of identifiers to items about list articles, see for example listed buildings in Alvanley (Q6646054). Can you please revert these edits? I noticed them at Wikidata:Database_reports/Constraint_violations/P1216#.22Single_value.22_violations, but autolist gives a better overview. Multichill (talk) 12:58, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Multichill, yes I had to stop this task because at this time a lot of list weren't identified as such. I'm looking for a way to revert these edits but it can take some time. I'll keep you informed. — Ayack (talk) 21:14, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Any news on this? Multichill (talk) 16:26, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Fusions de doublons

Bonjour Ayack, j'ai vu que tu avais supprimé Q15964006 en le fusionnant vers Q15617821. Je pense que maintenant qu'on en a la possibilité, il vaudrait mieux créer un redirect (c'est en option sur Merge.js) pour que les identifiants restent utilisables par les sites externes qui les auraient chargés avant la fusion. --Zolo (talk) 13:00, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Bonjour Zolo, c'est bien noté, merci. Je ferai plus attention aux options cochées la prochaine fois. — Ayack (talk) 19:14, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Confusing edit from bot

See here How does a person have coordinates? Please use {{Ping}} if you respond here. Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:06, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Noted also adding coordinates to disambiguation page, association football club or company. Plese fix all of these error classes and next time consider, that not all from wikis can be straightly imported to wikidata. Also note that import of coors from cawiki was already done. --Jklamo (talk) 13:55, 9 September 2014 (UTC)

Chaïm Soutine (Q160141) → country of citizenship (P27) → Belarus (Q184)

Please, do not use Belarus (Q184) for dates before 1991 year. In Chaïm Soutine (Q160141) context the Russian Empire (Q34266) should be used as first value or country of citizenship (P27). -- Vlsergey (talk) 03:59, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Erreur d’AyackBot

Salut,

De temps en temps, je m'occupe de corriger les erreurs pointées sur Wikidata:Database reports/Constraint violations/P380. J'ai noté qu'AyackBot avait fait une erreur sur Q15952942 en ajoutant des identifiants Mérimée qui correspondent aux monuments de la liste et non à la liste elle-même.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 15:42, 21 October 2014 (UTC) PS: même genre de problème sur Paris Métro entrances by Hector Guimard (Q3579100).

P1196 takes only 5 values

Hi, I notice you added many manner of death (P1196) claims via User:AyackBot, e.g. "Croquart manner of death horse fall". As noted at Property_talk:P1196, P1196 takes one of only 5 values:

• natural causes (Q3739104)
• accident (Q171558)
• suicide (Q10737)
• homicide (Q149086)
• pending investigation (Q15729048)

Values like horse fall (Q2967712) are appropriate for cause of death (P509), but not manner of death (P1196). These properties are imported pieces of controlled vocabulary used by demographers to structure general and specific data on how people die. See Wikidata:Property_proposal/Archive/20#manner_of_death for more detail. I have fixed most of the erroneous "manner of death (P1196) horse fall (Q2967712)" claims -- just wanted to leave a note for future reference. Thanks, Emw (talk) 01:44, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Q18606820 ?

Bonjour,

Je viens de voir que tu avais crée Q18606820 mais complètement vide (sans aucune affirmation, aucun lien vers un projet Wikimedia ni aucun lien depuis un autre élément Wikidata) et qu'à la même minute, tu avais crée Agnes of Montfort (Q18606821).

Cela m'amène à deux questions :

• est-ce bien, comme je l'imagine, une erreur et il faut fusionner et rediriger le premier vers le second ?
• as-tu souvenir de ce qui s'est passé ? le même genre de mésaventure m'est arrivé récemment et j'avoue ne pas en avoir compris l'origine ni la raison…

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:54, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Salut VIGNERON, c'est étrange en effet, mais j'ignore ce qui a bien pu provoquer ce doublon. Je supprime la page en doublon. Merci du signalement. — Ayack (talk) 12:46, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Bizarre. Il faudrait peut-être essayer d'enquêter… (mais je ne saurais pas trop par où commencer : les éléments portants le même label et ayant des numéros consécutifs, je ne sais pas comment faire ce genre de requête).

Plutôt qu'une suppression, ne faudrait-il pas plutôt créer une redirection ?

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 13:10, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Ajout d'image par AyackBot

Bonjour, j'ai vu qu'AyackBot avait fait pas mal d'erreurs en ajoutant des cartes dans la propriété image (P18). J'en ai enlevé certaines, mais je pense qu'il en reste, et c'est assez embêtant parce que ça se voit sur Wikipédia (fr:Catégorie:Page utilisant des données de Wikidata/P18 ou [9]). --Zolo (talk) 16:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Bonjour Zolo, en effet il y a des cartes ajoutées en image (P18) que je dois retirer. J'ai leur liste mais je rencontre un problème avec Autolist2 qui ne me permet plus de les enlever. Je viens de laisser un message à Magnus en espérant qu'il puisse corriger ça rapidement. 08:17, 26 January 2015 (UTC)— Ayack (talk)

situation administrative

Bonjour, j'ai vu que tu as cancellé mon change. Si j'ai bien compris, located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) est seulement pour divisions administratives, n'est-ce pas? Alors je ne comprends pas ton intervention, un cimitière n'est pas une division administrative. Merci de ton retour.--Quico (talk) 13:13, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Bonjour Quico, non, located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) s'utilise pour tous les éléments fixes : ville, château, pays, cimetière... location (P276) s'utilise lui pour tous les éléments mobiles ou ponctuels : concert, tableau, bataille... Les descriptions des propriétés en anglais (qui ont été modifiées il y a peu) portent à confusion et devraient être corrigées. — Ayack (talk) 13:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Ah, d'accord, merci, alors je ne l'avais bien compris. C'est vrai que les descriptions ne sont pas claires. Salut!--Quico (talk) 13:30, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

@Qllach, Ayack: En fait vous êtes un peu dans l'erreur, pour un cimetière à l'état actuel s'est plutôt P1134 (P1134) (malgré qu'un vote a passé dernièrement pour le fusionner à location (P276)). located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) ne touche que les divisions administratives. --Fralambert (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Fralambert, c'est curieux ce que tu dis là, pour tous les MH, on utilise bien located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) (cf. Property talk:P1435). — Ayack (talk) 18:01, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Désolé, j'ai lu trop vite et j'ai dis des bêtises. Tu avais effectivement raison de reverter, un cimetière est bien immobile. --Fralambert (talk) 18:04, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Coordonnées de zhwikipedia

Bonjour, il me semble qu'Ayackbot a importé pas mal de coordonnées de Wikipédia et je vois que fr:Catégorie:Page sans coordonnées Wikidata commence à se remplir pas mal. Par ailleurs, on dirait que la plupart des coordonnées de zhwiki n'ont toujours pas été importées. Elle sont généralement ajoutées par zh:Template:Coord qui est une copie du modèle anglais, donc si à l'occasion... --Zolo (talk) 17:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)

Property proposal discussion

Hi Ayack

Where can I found the discussion about the creation of senat.fr ID (P1808) ? --- Jura 11:04, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

@Jura1: Ahem, you can't. I bypassed the process as the result of the proposal seemed obvious for me (but I admit I shouldn't have done it). Now, if you think it shouldn't be on Wikidata, you can ask its deletion here. — Ayack (talk) 16:43, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

My rule about the subject is event for obvious property to make a proposition. I wait at least one week to see if there is a oposition and then I create it. --Fralambert (talk) 22:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Nouvelle propriété

Bonjour Ayack, je viens de demander la création d'une nouvelle propriété : Wikidata:Property proposal/References#Identifiant catholic-hierarchy (diocèse) si tu veux y jeter un coup d'oeil comme c'est toi qui avais proposé la Catholic Hierarchy person ID (P1047) ! A bientôt Olivier LPB (talk) 08:53, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Roman catholic and catholicism

Why did you change all these statements and incorrect at that ? Thanks, GerardM (talk) 18:34, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Answered on Project chat. — Ayack (talk) 10:13, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

revert ,,

You are wrong, I just checked it. Thanks, GerardM (talk) 18:18, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

GerardM: your edit (and many others) is a duplicate (less precise) of the claim award received (P166): Legionnaire of Legion of Merit (Q17231624). — Ayack (talk) 08:51, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Property creations

Hi Ayack, I see you recently created several properties. Could you please complete the steps described at Wikidata:Property_creators#Steps_when_creating_properties for these properties? Thank you, Multichill (talk) 20:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

height (P2048)

This property appears to be a mess in it's present form. It does not correspond to the original property proposal. It is too ambiguous, and therefore likely to result in poor data. There are many ways in which height is measured, we need to have specific properties, for different methods, e.g. topographic prominence rather than just height. Danrok (talk) 23:44, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Jules Allard (Q15791604) et s:fr:Auteur:Jules Allard

Salut,

Est-ce que cet élément et cette page Wikisource concerne la même personne ou bien est-ce deux personnes différentes ? (il y a peu d'informations... je suis dans l'incertitude).

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 09:21, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Salut VIGNERON, je dirais qu'il s'agit de personnes différentes mais sans certitude... — Ayack (talk) 10:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Museofile

Hi Ayack, sorry to report that I had a little accident with the Museofile Mix'n'match - deleted all the entries there. I think' I've re-imported them, and matched the ones from Wikidata. Just don't be surprised if names have changed slightly etc. --Magnus Manske (talk) 12:59, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Magnus, no problem, thanks for your work! — Ayack (talk) 13:14, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Reverting edits based on birth in Occitania

Hi there. I notice that you are reverting edits by User:Jiròni, such as this one, yet Pèire Godolin was born in Toulouse, which is in Occitania, France. User:Jiròni was therefore correct. In fact, if you take a look at item Toulouse (Q7880) you will see, listed, that it is capital of (P1376) of Occitania. Please revert your edits. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 22:59, 17 March 2016 (UTC) .

Llywelyn2000, I reverted these edits because there are already statements for place of birth (P19) on these items which are more specific. For example, Toulouse is in Occitania so you don't have to add it. — Ayack (talk) 20:26, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Many thanks Ayack. So, why, are they not counted as being (also) Occitanian in this table. When you deleted the 'born in', they were wiped off the table. There were 40, now there's 32. many thanks again, I'm sure we can sort this out. I can't really see no reason for NOT having more than one place of birth (town, county, official country name, unofficial country name, sovereign nation name etc) Llywelyn2000 (talk) 07:52, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

OK. As you have not responded, I'll change them back to user:Jiròni's original edit, so that they are counted as being born in Occitania. Thanks. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 12:58, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Llywelyn2000,

Adding multiple intricated values like Toulouse (Q7880) and Occitania (Q104285) is a bad idea (except if you have source for this specific information but even in this case, we should use ranking to point the more precise value) ; the reason is simple : why not adding an infinity of values like France (Q142) + Europe (Q46) + Eurasia (Q5401) + Afro-Eurasia (Q27527) + Earth (Q2) + Solar System (Q544) + Orion Arm (Q33187) + Milky Way (Q321) and so on until Universe (Q1)? when to stop and where is the threshold?.

For your table, the reason is simple ; you gather people born (or dead) in Occitania (Q104285) or in places administratively located (located in the administrative territorial entity (P131)) in Occitania (Q104285). But Toulouse (Q7880) is not indicated in Wikidata as administratively located in Occitania (Q104285), that's why people bord in Toulouse doesn't appear in your table. Two solutions :

• adding
  ⟨ Toulouse (Q7880)    ⟩ located in the administrative territorial entity (P131) ⟨ Occitania (Q104285)    ⟩
  (probably a bad idea as Occitania (Q104285) is not really a administrative entity)
• adding
  ⟨ Toulouse (Q7880)    ⟩ location (P276) ⟨ Occitania (Q104285)    ⟩
  and adding P276 to the SPARQL request on your table.

Cdlt, VIGNERON (talk) 11:56, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

@VIGNERON:Many, many thanks for such a detailed answer. I understand your thinking. Thanks allso for your two suggestions, I follow up on the second one. Llywelyn2000 (talk) 08:08, 29 April 2016 (UTC)